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Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

Being Human

This is an interview that took place on January 11, 2012 with Sam Witwer, Sam Huntington and Meaghan Rath from Being Human.

Question:
Could you talk about what it's been like to film season two and how it's different to play these characters in the second season?

Sam Huntington:
We loved the show so much, I think I can speak for all of us when I say that and so we were all really, really excited to get back. And you know the funny thing is I personally expected it to feel a lot like just one giant bout of dej?? vu and to be honest, like it really just felt as though we never had the hiatus.

It just felt because it was all the same crew and a lot of the same cast it just felt like we had maybe a two day break and then we just rolled into season two, it was bizarre. But at the same time it was great because I felt like we were able to really just pick up right where we left off which was a really cool spot. So yeah, anyway, like that.

Sam Witwer:
There's me and Sammy and Meaghan and we bonded I think all the way back during our first audition together. But I guess you know you go away, we were so exhausted after the first season, I for months afterwards even the thought of doing season two would make me sleepy.

When we got back I guess I hadn't expected to be as happy to see everyone as I was. The crew and all the directors and everyone and that kind of carried for me that carried me through the season. I wasn't as exhausted this year, there was something about having a successful season one behind us and knowing the characters and having that momentum that was really positive this year.

Meaghan Rath:
I think script wise it was a lot easier to just fall back into it this year because there was no establishing who our characters were and what our circumstances were, we just jumped right into it. And that's reflective of the first episode, we just get right into the story immediately which was really great.

Sam Witwer:
Absolutely, and in the first season there was so much heavy lifting on everyone's part to establish these characters and to try make this all work and now we had a little bit of competence going on this time.

Sam Huntington:
So much more, there was so much uncertainty in season one, it's like imagine like any television show, your season one is you're kind of biting your fingernails the whole time just saying to yourself God I hope people like this and I hope people watch this.

Sam Witwer:
Right and you're second guessing yourself.

Question:
What about a story line, you know what's coming up, how season two felt different and just like the stories you're getting to tell?

Sam Witwer:
It's extremely different, it's very, very different. If season one was about putting these people who are at risk into a safe environment, well season two is all about what is that risk about? And I think it's inevitable with these people and their adversities, you know specific risks that they have in terms of you know vampire, werewolf and ghost, what do those conditions mean. And basically what it means is these people are in trouble and we're going to see a lot of that trouble this year. We're going to see why they need so badly to have a sanctuary because things get a little bit darker this year.

Question:
How do you maintain sort of their humanity when playing the dark parts and what kind of challenges there are in doing that?

Meaghan Rath:
I think for me it's important to keep in mind that these are real people and not to get sucked into the supernatural element of the whole thing. What makes the show different is that we're playing into the supernatural stereotypes, we are trying to play these as regular people.

So for me it's a lot about just keeping in mind what I would do in this kind of situation and what's great about the show is that it's really acting, what would you do if you were put in this situation. And so I think that's where the humanity comes from, just being a good person and being with these challenges that sort of question your morality and your values.

Sam Witwer:
I think Meaghan is absolutely right with that. For example in television we've kind of seen everything including vampires, werewolves and ghosts and we've seen people get killed and all kinds of crazy stuff. What we're trying to do as three actors is we're trying to bring as much humanity into those events as possible. For example if someone dies, we're going to tell a story where you realize that is an awful sacrifice or that something has happened that is really, really terrible.

It's all about the character's reactions and I mean these three characters are the eyes through which the audience watches the show. So we're really trying to keep our reactions to all this giant supernatural stuff very grounded. And in terms of the dark stuff that comes up, I mean the messed up thing is that at first you'll see our characters react with horror and shame and all this awful stuff. And then as time goes on you might see them kind of get used to it and that hopefully will be a very sad thing to watch.

Sam Huntington:
I think you just kind of hit the nail on the head. I mean a lot of times on the show I can say I think the characters are almost seeing these horrible things happen for the first time, so they're almost like the audience. You know they're viewing these things and so hopefully that's what the audience can kind of grasp on to and also it helps as an actor it helps in form what you do.

Because you're like okay well what if this person was killed, what would the ramifications, what emotionally what would that mean to me and how would that affect me and how would that affect every aspect of my life. And so it's cool. It sets the show aside, we don't just roll over these issues, we actually tackle them.

Question:
Sam Witwer, what did you do or what did you experience growing up in the Chicago area that prepared you to live the life of an undead vampire?

Sam Witwer:
I ate a lot of Chicago pizza. I hid out in my basement with my band so I didn't see the light a lot. There it is. You know everyone wonders why the hell he's so pale, well it's because I've been training myself to be this pale.

Sam Huntington:
You literally can't get a tan now.

Sam Witwer:
No, I can't. I think I've lost the ability. Yeah, my skin has lost the ability to create melanin. No, I actually am telling a little bit of the truth in that me and my friends were all night people. And we wouldn't wake up if we didn't have to for school or something we wouldn't wake up till noon or one. And we all knew, don't call your buddy before noon, that's rude, that's not cool. So there's my vampire training right there.

Question:
One of the things that we all know about this show is that you guys as actors and as the characters you portray have these really likeable chemistry and it's a very believable thing because you know you guys actually seem to get along with one another. So from season one to season two and this is sort of expanding on what a previous caller asked, how are you guys interacting differently as actors on set? Do you trust each other more, do you seek out advice from one another about how to deal with a scene? Do you feel more comfortable to bite and push back? How has your chemistry kind of changed as actors this sophomore year?

Meaghan Rath:
I do not do a scene without first consulting Sam Witwer. He coaches me.

Sam Witwer:
It's true. And I give her the okay whether she should do it or not and sometimes she shouldn't do it. I'm like look.

Meaghan Rath:
Often it's just don't do it.

Sam Witwer:
You have to march right back to the producers and tell them you're not doing this.

Sam Huntington:
Yeah it's miserable. And I'm on the outside looking in, I'm just sitting there in my trailer waiting it out, you know what I mean?

Sam Witwer:
Yeah well it's kind of fun because Meaghan has almost gotten fired several times because of things that I told her to do.

Sam Huntington:
Exactly. And the weird thing is she's so loyal to Witwer that she won't start, like no, there's this guy who's telling me not to do this.

Sam Witwer:
Yeah, me and Meaghan have this relationship where it's a little bit like the bond between kidnapper and victim. It's a little bit like that.

Sam Witwer:
If this is partially answering your question like we really like hanging out. We really do and this year the three characters they get split up a little bit and they go off on their own little journeys and for us that just made us appreciate every time that we had a scene together all the more. And you know I think there's like one or two scenes with us at least in every episode with all three of us. But I think our favorite episode to shoot was this episode that's coming up down the line. Where we're in every scene together throughout the whole episode. That was kind of, for us it was like oh this is the way to do it, this is the way to do the show. Who needs other actors?

Sam Huntington:
It's what the show is about and to be honest like we were comfortable with each other instantly on set. Our relationship in that regard hasn't changed. I feel like we like pretty much learned who each other were by half way through the first season, not even and our friendship has grown and built and everything.

But we have so much trust and faith in one another and like I just know, when we're in a scene with one another, it's going to work and there's going to be that shorthand and it's going to be fun and it's going to be loose and it's going to be natural. So you just have that confidence going into it and then in all seriousness like I have a concern or if I am struggling with a piece of motivation I always ask Sam or Meaghan what they think. And because I respect and love them so much and trust them so much so it really is truly as lame as that sounds it's kind of true and also I feel very fortunate to have that relationship with them.

Sam Witwer:
I think something that's really cool about our relationship is this thing with me and Sammy and Meaghan is that both of those actors can do a whole bunch of stuff that I can't. And I think that's really awesome. Like there's not a lot of overlap in terms of personality and ability so we all have our own turf with which we have to play with but at the same time I love watching an episode and seeing what they're doing. Because it's like wow, look at all the stuff that they're bringing that I frankly don't know how to do. I love watching them and then stealing from them when I can.

Meaghan Rath:
I think the best thing about it is that the trust level has gone up so much and for me these two guys are the people I trust most on set and you always feel like in scenes you're in good hands. Like you're never questioning the direction the scene is supposed to go in because it just always works every time we're together. We just are able to feed off each other in a way that I've never experienced before.

Sam Huntington:
There's a scene in episode one, it's actually online right now, it's the scene that they teased, the scene in the kitchen where Kristen comes down and she's like you know I pulled this you know high school reunion invitation out the trashcan and Meaghan's very funny, Kristen's very funny. Obviously it's episode one so you get the set and you know we're shooting that scene like I couldn't tell what I was doing, like it was still so fresh in the process of season two and we were like getting back into it.

And I was like this feels good but I really hope it's working and then you see that scene and I personally think it's fantastic. Like it just nails the relationship, it picks back up exactly where it left off. And I was just so happy to see that.

Sam Witwer:
Kristen Hager is just wonderful this season, she's so great. She is such a talented actress and it should be noted we feel tremendously bonded to Kristen as well. You know she's one of us and is really awesome when we see someone that we've worked with for so long and that we bonded with come to set, it's like oh it's her, it's Kristen. You know she's there a lot so that's good.

Question:
Is there like a specific scene or moment or something that is going to happen this season that you're kind of really excited to see the fan's reaction to?

Sam Witwer:
Totally. Oh my God yeah.

Meaghan Rath:
I'm sorry, we couldn't even start about it right now because we would be fired. But there are huge moments for each of us this season that happen sort of mid way through. I don't want to say too much, Bill's going to kill me. But there's definitely a lot to look forward to, some really shocking things happening.

Question:
Is there anything maybe that was really challenging this year, specifically that you could talk about or is that all?

Sam Huntington:
For me I think we all have very, very - I mean like that's what's cool about the job to be honest is you're challenged every day you go to set. You're always challenged by this wonderful material, this material that makes you really, really think. And you know it forces you to just basically become a better actor. I had several moments this year where I got to places emotionally that I'd never gotten to before on a set. You asked if there are moments that we're excited about, yeah, those are some of the moments, that are emotional and big and it's crazy, it's what's so cool about the show.

Meaghan Rath:
For me there was every single day I felt like I was being pushed by the writers and the creators just for what they had planned for me. I have the feeling so often where I came to set and I'm looking at the scenes and I don't know how I'm going to do this, when I read the script. I don't know what I'm going to do and I think that is where you really grow as an actor, when you're scared. And there was definitely a lot of that this season.

Sam Huntington:
You don't want to let them down. You know they've given you this material and you don't want to let them down, you want to do it justice.

Sam Witwer:
The real challenge I think this year was, we've lived with these characters for a season now and so it's like okay, what new sides of this character can we show? I talked about how last year we had the tremendous luxury of going in and not really doing a pilot, just going in and knowing that we had 13 episodes. So we could be leisurely about when we were going to show certain sides of the character.

When you do a pilot you're trying to sell the pilot, sell the character, sell this, sell that. So you're trying to show them as much as you can. But because we didn't do that we all felt just sort of patient. Like okay, well I'm not going to show you anything in the first episode, how about that?

Sam Huntington:
Or I'm going to show you this little piece and I'm going to do the best job I can at this one bit, you know?

Sam Witwer:
This one little thing and later on you knew that there were going to be opportunities to show more and more of the character and so this year we've established the characters pretty thoroughly last year. And so this year it's like okay well what new can we show you? And I feel pretty confident that all three of us we've all seen like nine episodes so far.

We do get to know these different sides of these characters in big ways. And the other big challenge this year is that we shot everything a little bit faster. We had less time to do stuff in for various reasons and so there were several things that like Meaghan was saying like how am I going to do this, and I had one take to get it right. And so that was a little bit frightening but I think it all turned out all right, I've seen the stuff. And it's like okay, well I think it works.

Meaghan Rath:
They edit you really generously

Sam Huntington:
Yeah, they're very kind to you Sam, very kind.

Sam Witwer:
They are. It's not what he's doing on the set, it's what the editors do to him. I was about to swear, the others are absolutely fantastic. They're really, really good, I've seen them save me on countless occasions. And Huntington, forget about it, I mean there's no performance on set, it's all in the editing room.

Sam Huntington:
It is, it's literally I show up and basically it's gibberish. You'll notice that I never say a line on camera. It's just all back of my head. And then Witwer has to go in and loop it for me. He has to go in and actually be like wow this is what I'm saying now.

Sam Witwer:
I do a really good Sam Huntington impression, yeah.

Sam Huntington:
Very important. I was really lucky to have Sam there to craft Josh, you know? Really, really lucky.

Question:
You all get along so great, are we going to be seeing a lot of tension between the roommates this year and if so is it hard to keep a straight face when that happens?

Sam Witwer:
We will be seeing tension between the three in ways that we didn't see in the first seasons, things get pretty serious and I'll say this, the scenes feel really good when you do them. There's some scenes that we have where we're kind of at each other's throats, I hope that doesn't give too much away. And it feels really good in once sense to do because you know that you're really cooking, like when it's really working you feel great about that. On the other hand I don't like having to shout or be mean to Sammy or Meaghan, you know what I mean? That's the tough part. Is you're like oh, okay.

Meaghan Rath:
I like when you yell at me.

Sam Witwer:
But she loves it, she loves taking it.

Sam Huntington:
She's an odd duck. But you know what, you said is it hard to keep a straight face, generally speaking you know when it's a really, really rough moment for one of us it usually means it's a rough moment for all of us. And we always you know like we love each other so we always generally respect when somebody needs a moment or somebody needs to gather themselves for a take. I usually give Meaghan a really hard time.

Meaghan Rath:
It's unreal the hard time that he gives me. No consideration at all. For the most part you're great, but then there's the odd moment where I'm trying to focus and you're like fake vomiting on me.

Sam Huntington:
Yeah, it's good times. Those are the nights that I sleep well, you know? But I lead a good day.

Sam Witwer:
Or I really got her today, I really made her feel bad about herself.

Meaghan Rath:
But yeah this season you will see a lot of tension between the three roommates because we all are on our own journey and trying to get ourselves out of these really desperate situations. So for the reason that we're doing completely different things when we do come together there's a question of can we still relate to each other and how non-judgmental are we actually going to be towards each other? And that generates a lot of tension between us.

Sam Huntington:
And you know the temptation this season is just a beast. You know what I mean? Just a beast.

Question:
So you know as you continue to develop your characters into season two is there anything you've been surprised to learn about yourselves along the way?

Sam Huntington:
I learned that I have a really deep belly button.

Meaghan Rath:
I think for me I feel like that's the way I've grown as a person since I started acting and it's a strange thing but every new experience you go through, every different set, every character I feel it forces you to find something in yourself that has been there. But you never knew it existed so you're just trying to access different parts of your emotional life or feelings that you've suppressed over the years.

And it changes you, especially when you connect to a character so much and you love that character, it really forces you to question what would I do in this situation and what does this mean to me and how can I put this situation into my own words? And that's for me how I mature and grow.

Sam Huntington:
We've all been kind of at this acting thing for quite some time and done a lot of different, different work, different jobs, everything presents different challenges. And you know it's a fun gig but it's really hard. And this year I've got to say like this year for some reason more than last year, and it's probably because of a lot of the stuff that I was given to perform, I really felt like my range broadened.

I felt like I learned a lot of things about myself and about where I'm able to go emotionally and these are lessons that I'm going to take through the rest of my career. Because it's going to be really short, let's be honest, I mean no, but it's weird that you know you can have relatively large body of work and then there can be this one thing that just kind of changes everything. And you learn kind of a lot of who you are as an actor and it's been a joy. And I've been able to experience it with like you know these guys who are like my besties.

Sam Witwer:
I think we've all three learned to trust ourselves a little bit more in terms of our creative instincts. I've learned that if the editors have it even in pieces, even if I was a little bit you know never got through a full take without blowing something, if the editors have it in pieces, fine, leave it alone, go to sleep, it's fine, done.

And then the other thing that I've learned speaking of sleep is I am 40% nicer of a person if I'm well rested, 48%. I mean a lot of people are like 20% nicer if they are well rested, I am 48% nicer if I'm well rested.

Sam Huntington:
Literally almost 50% nicer.

Sam Witwer:
Almost 50%, I mean for me if I don't have a lot of sleep, my political and diplomatic skills are gone. I have no ability to say anything other than what I absolutely mean and I don't care about how I said it.

Sam Huntington:
I think you give yourself a hard time about that.

Meaghan Rath:
I agree, you're not that bad.

Sam Huntington:
You're not that bad one, and two I think you're probably saying that because you got more sleep this year and it was a nicer experience as far as that goes.

Sam Witwer:
I think I was nicer this year.

Meaghan Rath:
Well I think you should give yourself a little more credit, I'd say you're 42% nicer when you're rested.

Sam Huntington:
Forty two, I'm with Rath, I'll go 42.

Sam Witwer:
Got it, no she's right, maybe it is 42, maybe I've been too hard on myself.

Meaghan Rath:
It's a little more than 40%.

Sam Huntington:
Just a scosh.

Sam Witwer:
But not approaching 50 like we were thinking before.

Sam Huntington:
No.

Question:
I was wondering if there are any interesting or favorite guest stars this coming season that you'd like to mention?

Sam Witwer:
Mark Pellegrino.

Meaghan Rath:
There are a lot of guest stars we can't talk about.

Sam Witwer:
Yeah, unfortunately.

Sam Huntington:
I can tell you Kristen Hager is one of my all time favorite people to work with ever and one of the greatest scene partners and I'm such a lucky guy.

Question:
Sam Witwer, why do you think that Aidan seems to me so much better than other vampires as far as trying to keep his dark side in check?

Sam Witwer:
Why is he trying to keep his dark side in check, well it's interesting, again not knowing what other vampire shows are doing these days or vampire movies, I haven't really watched them so I don't know how new the idea of a vampire trying to become a good guys is. But our take on it with the whole drug addiction analogy is I think really fresh and cool and that analogy, that metaphor is alive and well this season in a big, big way.

And why is it, why is it cool, what's better about it, yeah, I don't know. I like the fact that all things considered if you take away the addiction this is a principled guy. I like that about the character and I don't know, I really don't know. I couldn't tell you.

Question:
In addition to playing you know vampires, ghosts and werewolves we've had Sam and Sam have each played zombies, what is it that you know what is it about monsters that's resonating with the viewing public these days?

Sam Huntington:
In all seriousness I think there's a lot of people out there who are undead and I think that they really relate to you know the undead on our show and I think that's what sets our show aside.

Sam Witwer:
I think that our society has good points and bad points but we're a little bit more self aware I suppose as Americans.

Question:
Since you guys have had a full season behind you, and playing these characters do you guys have a ton of input in terms of plot points or the direction of where each character is going to go?

Sam Huntington:
No.

Meaghan Rath:
No, not at all.

Sam Witwer:
And I felt like I had quite a bit of input by the end but that wasn't necessarily out of design it was more necessity. There were problems that needed to be solved and all three of us while we're not responsible for the macro shape of the show, we do at this point, I think we can safely say we know our characters better than anyone. So there was for me, I can't speak for Sammy and Meaghan but there was for me a little bit of diving in and helping solve certain problems and saying hey, listen, here's what Aidan would do, you know?

Sam Huntington:
Yeah, I mean there were moments that you're like you know you have you know very minimal but a certain amount of contact with our writers, the show runners and so if you have a question or something you can always ask or if you have a concern sometimes it gets listened to. But yeah, I mean generally speaking they make the - Sam said it right, you know on a macro level they pilot the ship.

Sam Witwer:
They do and they do a really good job of coming up with really interesting turns and twists.

Question:
How long did it take you guys to shoot this season, and how many hour days did you have?

Meaghan Rath:
It took about five months, we started in July and finished in December. And the days can go pretty long, sometimes 14, 15 hours depending on the day, depending what point we are in the schedule, how behind we are?

Sam Witwer:
Your occasional 18, 19 hour they throw in. But there were more of those 18, 19 hour days last year than there were this year.

Meaghan Rath:
Definitely.

Sam Huntington:
And also consecutively last year, that was what was weird, that's what really took - you'd have a beastly three days and it would just take it out of you for like three weeks, you know? That kind of was the unfortunate thing about the end of last season is it was just hellish you know?

Question:
Being that your characters are all going to be playing a lot apart from one another how much will the hospital come into play, that's where three of the four characters work but is it going to be kind of like that home away from home as it was in the first season?

Sam Huntington:
The hospital is pivotal in things that happen in the hospital are pivotal and kind of spring boards for a lot of stuff that happens in the season but yeah, actually you kind of definitely touch on something that's true it's not like our home away from home this season like it was last year. And I think a lot of that actually also is because you know each of us are having our individual paths so there's less of us actually meeting up at the hospital you know?

Sam Witwer:
Yeah, I think that's true.

Meaghan Rath:
I feel like I definitely spend more time in the hospital this year.

Sam Huntington:
To be honest, and Sam and I actually talked a lot about this season because you know we actually feel kind of differently about it but I could lose the hospital as a location altogether.

Sam Witwer:
Whereas I love it. I think it's really great.

Sam Huntington:
Yep. I like it in theory, like I like the idea that we can go there and it serves as a lot of different sets and it make sense for the characters but logistically I'm not into it for some weird reason, I don't really like it.

Sam Witwer:
I think it's because they always have you cleaning up you know vomit and for me, you know I'm carrying something somewhere.

Sam Huntington:
That's what it is. That's it.

Sam Witwer:
Somehow Aidan ditches all the most unpleasant stuff like bedpans, he just doesn't do it. He's like you know if I ditch it someone else will do it.

Question:
Could you talk a little bit about the addition of Dichen on the show?

Sam Witwer:
I'm trying to think of how much can I say without ruining too much. We go into some vampire authority matters and there are vampires that are much, much older than Aidan or even Bishop. And we learn about how he was rather than how he is and Dichen represents a lot of that in this seasons for Aidan.

She represents a lot of what he wanted, a lot of who he wanted to be and she's thrown back into the mix and the problem is that Aidan is now a different guy so we learn how do I put it, it's like imagine that you had a really close relationship with someone back in high school and then you link up with them later. It's not exactly the same as it was because you've both changed, that type of thing.

Question:
Meaghan have you found a way to update Sally's look at all, have you pitched something to the producers yet?

Sam Huntington:
She wears a really cute barrette this year.

Meaghan Rath:
Well here's the thing, in season two we do get to see Sally in some different outfits and I think you know in the trailers of the show the promos that they've released you do see Sally in a couple different things.

Sam Huntington:
Including her birthday suit, oh yeah.

Meaghan Rath:
That's true, there is some nudity.

Sam Huntington:
Finally some female nudity on the show.

Meaghan Rath:
You can change your outfit, here's the deal, you can change, you can get out of those clothes but that's it. I'm not allowed to get into anything else. So there's a little bit of that. But this possession door that Sally's opened has really allowed me to change it up a little bit which has been nice, yeah.

Question:
Witwer, you guys have all had pretty extensive television experience but you've probably had more than anybody. And you go back to Syfy and the days when it was the Syfy Channel back on Battlestar Galactica. Have you noticed any difference now that the channel's rebranded to Syfy?

Sam Witwer:
Yeah, it's interesting. In terms of how the branding has changed, the marketing for everything, I think that's something everyone can see. I mean from the production side not really, no. I mean in fact one of the producers on the Syfy side that is working with us worked on Battlestar Galactica. So it's you know some of the people are around, so that's not really different. I will say that for example networks, they have to ask sometimes shows to do things that creatively you know they may not be the most satisfying things.

But they have very legitimate reasons for asking, for example on Battlestar Galactica's first episode, 33, not the miniseries but the first episode which is where I showed up for the first time, there's this whole plot line where there's a ship called the Olympic Carrier that has taken off and there's no - it's radio silence and it's hurtling toward Galactica and no one can get a hold of anyone on that ship.

And then later we fly by the ship, we don't see anyone in the windows and we detect a nuke on board so we shoot down the Olympic Carrier. Well the way that we shot that wasn't like that at all. The way that we shot it was the Olympic Carrier, there was no nuke on board and when we flew by we saw thousands of people in those windows, people that by the way we shot that.

And so the whole thing was there's a ship flying toward Galactica, it's broken radio silence, it's not answer the radios, what do we do? And it was basically it was a thinly veiled 9/11 metaphor. There's plane heading for it looks like it might be heading for a building, do we shoot it down? Maybe they're just scared, maybe they're going to veer off, we don't really know. Okay shoot it down. That was the whole idea and Syfy was like well okay, you've got to make it a little bit more you know put a nuke on board and make it a little bit more clear cut.

Now someone might say well that's a terrible decision creatively but then you're like yeah, but they do have a point, 9/11 at that point was only like two or three years after. Battlestar was like three or four years after 9/11. It was still pretty fresh in people's minds and Syfy had the concern of like look, let's not get this risky just yet, you know let's not scare the audience away. Now mind you I'm kind of a dick and I'd be like well they should - it's creative integrity, blah, blah.

But I get where they're coming from, right? So the good news is because Ron Moore and everyone was reasonable with Syfy and they're like yeah, okay fine, we'll work with you and we'll do this and we'll change it so that it reflects your notes. Then Syfy was reasonable with them and they won a lot of battles where they did some stuff that was way more hard hitting than what I'm telling you right now. And it's the same thing on this show, it's - there are certain battles that it's like okay, they want this and okay I get why they want it because they don't want it to be too dark and blah, blah, blah and this and that.

But the good news is that when you follow that stuff, generally they - because they want to see some of the same stuff that we're talking about, it's just that they have concerns for logistical reasons. So you work with them, they work with you and then next thing you know you do something really shocking on television. It's just that they're wise to say that it shouldn't be shocking every episode. I mean you can't burn out your audience because it's so dark, dark, dark.

Sam Huntington:
You're right like although this season like I've got to say I was shocked at some of the stuff that we shot. Some of the stuff we shot is very, very dark as far as like emotionally dark and you can't really believe the characters are doing what they're doing at certain times. I'm thinking of a couple instances where you did things that are like, really? Okay, let's do it, like here it is.

Question:
We know that in casting Aidan was supposed to be like the super sexy vampire and Josh was supposed to be the comic relief. How do you guys deal with the fact that Josh is totally sexier than Aidan?

Sam Huntington:
Oh God, it's hard for me. I can tell you right now that you are the one person who feels that way and I think you should come over tonight for dinner.

Sam Witwer:
See now my thing is this, they had a lot of hopes for the Aidan character and only one or two out of the 15 have they actually achieved having hired me. So this is not anything new in terms of the disappointment about the Aidan character. I think it's safe to say it's pretty much a failure of a character.

Sam Huntington:
In the sexy regard.

Sam Witwer:
No, not just the sexy regard, but dramatically you know especially dramatically. Like the guy doesn't necessarily pull his weight.

Meaghan Rath:
He's a dud.

Sam Witwer:
Well look, every show has a dud character. My thing is they pay me the same amount whether the character's a dud or really works so for me it's a win-win. It's easier. Well it's a lose-win actually, it's a lose in that I'm not doing good work, win I'm getting paid to not do good work.

Question:
Can you tell us why vampires are such messy eaters?

Sam Witwer:
Okay, I've asked the same damned question, I'm like look, he's eating. Why is it all over my chest, come on.

Sam Huntington:
It's like the vampire equivalent of a Carl's Jr. commercial.

Sam Witwer:
That's true, I have actually on a few occasions been able to clean it up like you know they wanted to have blood all over the place, I'm like okay guys, he has been doing this for 200 years, he's better at it than you guys are leading on. So no, he's eating, it's in here, it's by the mouth, and maybe just a little bit on the lips and they agree with that. But one thing I will say is that if someone loses their mind, if Aidan has been starving for a long time and then starts going for it and starts getting super high, then I get the blood getting everywhere. But that's our mythology.

Meaghan Rath:
It's like a drunkard and their beer.

Question:
We heard a little bit about Aidan's journey this season and what we have to look forward to from him, what about Josh and Sally, what kind of a journey are your characters on?

Sam Huntington:
Josh you know we pick up the second season, it's three weeks after the end of the first season, so Josh has unknowingly scratched Nora and Nora is keeping it from him. So once again to reiterate something that Bill Brennan had said at the beginning of the phone call like well we can talk about this but don't print it until after it whatever.

But yeah, so Josh you know unknowingly scratched Nora, she's keeping it from him and so at the end of the first episode they both turn into werewolves and Josh finds out. And you know he was on a path to go back to medical school and that basically all comes screeching to a halt when he finds out that Nora's a werewolf and his new trajectory becomes to try and find a cure for her.

And so through doing that it changes his relationship with Nora drastically and Nora takes the news of being a wolf and the physiology of being a wolf very differently than Josh did. And so the theme for the season is temptation is a beast but for Josh really it's trying to keep the people he loves away from temptation of others and then himself being tempted. And it has very unfortunate results, so there you go.

Meaghan Rath:
For Sally it's basically she's dealing with when we first see her in season two she's dealing with the consequences of missing her door at the end of season one and what that means for her. She's acquired these new powers of being able to very briefly touch things which was a result of missing the door they think and she meets some new supernatural beings that kind of introduce her to different powers and one being possession which takes her down a very dark path, because it is very addictive.

And really her trajectory of the season is trying to fight or give in to this temptation, to this new sort of vice that she's discovered and what that brings to her and how that breaks her down.

Question:
Being Human was originally a British show, Being Human UK so I was wondering if any of you have watched it and do you feel this coming season is a chance to break away from the original because I do know that the first season very closely matched the first season of Being Human UK?

Sam Witwer:
We as actors we didn't watch the British series when we were shooting our first season because we wanted to do our own thing. We wanted to make sure that ours was its own animal. And then afterward we watched it. We watched everything. I love their show and I truly dig on it and I got Sammy and Meaghan started by buying them the box sets for season one and they watched it since then, watched more of it since then.

And you know we're all into it, but the writers, our writers hate it. No just kidding. Our writers, no our writers for the same reason that we avoided watching season one, they've avoided watching season two because they want season two to be its own animal. There is a little bit of cross over here and there in terms of things happening sometimes in similar ways. But it's really coincidental considering our writers didn't even know. So it's interesting, whenever something would happen that was similar I'd read it in the script and kind of laugh. Because they have no idea, but you know it's for the most part extremely different.

Question:
Do you think then this difference will stop the ongoing comparisons between the two shows because right now there's currently a lot of online talk about which version is better?

Sam Witwer:
No, it won't stop it.

Meaghan Rath:
I don't think it will stop, no, because it is founded on the same situations, they're both the same show. But I mean that's okay with me, I don't mind that because I also like Sam was saying I'm a huge fan of the British one. And I'm very positive in the second season that it does differ in a huge way. And you know and we're the same family but we're different cultures and I don't know, I'm happy to be associated with them and I'm excited for the day that we actually meet.

Sam Huntington:
Yeah me too, I really want to meet them. I think also we'd probably be singing a different tune if it was more negative. To be honest I think they've been so kind to us, you know primarily. The people who are fans of the BBC series or were first fans of the BBC series have really embraced our show and I think if they were really hating on it we'd be ready for them to be like uh guys, you know what we are our own thing.

And like listen, we embrace that, the fact that this season we are like Sam said like there's some small cross overs but for the most part we are and they are unintentional. We are our own beast. I think we'd be a lot more eager to have the comparisons cease if they were negative comparisons. Right?

Sam Witwer:
No, absolutely. I think that people have their preferences and for example if someone says hey I like the British version better, I'm not going to sit there and go whoa you're wrong. I'll be like no, I see why, it's different, there are different things. Personally when I watched the two shows, when I was watching you know just going through theirs and watching our season one versus their season one.

And I was kind of torn because I'd see stuff and I'd go oh they really nailed that moment in a way that we didn't'. Oh I like this better about theirs, and then I'd see other stuff and go oh but you know what, I like ours better on this, or we had a better take on this, and so I personally I mean considering I'm so close to it I could never say which is objectively better. And frankly I don't know that most people could objectively say that, I think it's more of a taste thing.

Sam Huntington:
I think one of the reasons is because you watch them at the exact same time on two different televisions.

Sam Witwer:
Very strange, it was like stereo but I found a way to actually lock one of my eyes on one television and one of my eyes on the other.

Sam Huntington:
Is that why you look like some kind of platypus this year, it's bizarre.

Sam Witwer:
I look the guy from Young Frankenstein, I look like Igor.

Sam Huntington:
That's exactly right. A really negative effect physically.

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