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The Biggest Loser Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

This is a transcript of an interview with trainers Cara Castronuova and Brett Hoebel on January 19, 2011 about the show The Biggest Loser.

The Biggest Loser

Question:
Can you tell me how you made the decision to come to The Biggest Loser and compete against the skills of Bob and Jillian, and what do you think you bring to the table?

Brett Hoebel:
They've actually been casting for this show, I'd say, almost four years. My agent had been - every year we kept going out for the casting and we kind of had got in the ear one of the casting directors and they, you know, called me in again and said, "Hey, it's that time of the year. Biggest Loser is casting." So, I've been pursuing it for quite a long time.

And one thing - the icing on the cake was I was working with Jillian showing her and training in Capoeira, Afro-Brazilian martial art when she would come to New York. She kind of called in for the right people too and got me to the front of the line, and it was good. Like, the casting people had already known who I was and Jillian kind of helped get me that final interview. And then, it was just 15 years of hard work getting prepped and ready to take on the challenge. So, that's how I kind of got into it. I mean, they have been casting for it for quite some time.

I guess the other question was, I don't feel that I'm - there's a competition amongst trainers. I think that we're a four-person coalition and four trainers is better than two, because there's four resources for the contestants and also for America to learn from. And there is a competition amongst the competitors the way the game is set up, but I don't feel that I'm being pitted against my friend Jillian or Bob who it was real honor to meet.

So, and I guess the last question was how do - what do I bring to the table? Well, you're going to get a little NYC in the house, baby. That's right, New York City. Both Cara and I from New York, you're going to get the real deal; we train with our people. My background's a little different. I have a premed background, big science background. I've done martial arts since I was ten. Again, I'm coming out of New York City, and you're going to have someone that really walks the talk.

I was an overweight kid, went through a lot of the same things that these people did, and came out on top the other side because of the training, nutrition, and a lot of the self work that I did on myself. So, you can take that to the bank.

Cara Castronuova:
For me, I mean it was a no brainer. The Biggest Loser is - I'm a fan of the show. I had never saw it before I got cast on it, to be honest, but I don't watch TV myself. But, I went online and I checked out a bunch of episodes and I'm still touched and so inspired by the contestants on the show. And you know watching Bob and Jillian, what they do, I just fell in love the minute I saw the show.

And it just worked out and I - you know, worked out, I got the job, and it's just been amazing ever since. Being able to translate fighting and what I've been doing for years as a competitive athlete, and now using it to do good and to help people is - has been the best part. And for me, I think being a competitive athlete and coming from the background of someone who competes - someone who's made weight before.

Also, my own personal story, you know, my own life has been not so easy. I feel like I have a lot of - in common with a lot of the contestants, and have been able to empathize with them and to just keep pushing them to keep fighting with my whole - I have a whole fighter mentality. It's not just the way I train physically, it's the way that - it's the mentality that I like to build in the contestants that they're a fighter.

That they have to keep going, that they have to pick themselves up, you know, when times get tough, and it's something that they really embrace and I know that they're going to take home with them to make sure that they don't gain the weight back when they go home, and that it stays off.

And definitely with - regarding Bob and - the whole Bob and Jillian thing, you know, with the competition. For me as a fighter and with everything I've done in the past, I like to surround myself with the best. I consider Bob and Jillian and Brett the best. And people that we can all learn from each other, and with a healthy competition going on, we're pushing the best out of each other.

Question:
Can you tell me how your training styles have led to the unknowns losing so much weight?

Brett Hoebel:
Besides the training, you either know it or you don't know it. There's no guess work, and that's, you know, there's that and then there's also just the fact that even at - even if you have a great technique, it really depends on the individual. I don't care what exercise you have or what diet you have, it really depends on the individual.

We have an amazing group of individuals underneath our watch, but I'm going to say one thing. To get that individual to transform, how do you motivate them when you're not two iconic trainers? You haven't helped lose over 225,000 pounds. You don't have ten seasons under your belt, because Cara and I walk our talk.

We came in, we did the workouts with them, we got their trust and respect, and that's when they turned up the juice. We were the unknowns. You know what I mean? We weren't chosen for who we were, it was amenity. We're the underdogs. The only way that you're going to get people to perform is if you come in there representing, you walk your talk, and they are inspired by you.

Cara Castronuova:
And for me, it's mental too. You know, the weight falls off if you fix what's going on inside, so since day one we've instilled a warrior mentality. And then, we just started training hard from day one and making them feel like they were strong, and they are strong. And I'd like to say, you can't teach apart from your heart. You just can't.

You know, a lot of the - the contestants all have heart and it's our job to bring it out of them and to show them how strong they are, but they can never turn back. So, the successful weight loss also comes from making them mentally strong and knowing that they can do anything. It's not just about the training, it's not just about the nutrition, of course that's a huge part of it, but what it really comes down to is fixing what's inside.

Question:
Can you please let me know where you guys got your personal training certifications, and also a little bit of background as far as how many - you know, how many clients you've been seeing over the years, that sort of thing? And then the follow-up, do you guys have any prior experience working with the morbidly obese population?

Brett Hoebel:
Not morbidly obese. I think Cara and I have definitely both had overweight clients, but this was a different type of population. I mean, they are 474 pounds. The common denominator is, you know, Cara's an amazing fighter. Two-time Golden Gloves Champion. She's going to bring the fighter out.

There's me applying the science of training, a different technique if you're a hundred pounds than it is if you're 474 pounds. But, that common denominator of like the toughness she brings, and also the science that I bring, that is - it doesn't matter what client or what contestant or what age or weight. So no, we didn't - I don't know that many people that work with a 500 pound person on a regular basis.

Cara Castronuova:
No, nobody.

Brett Hoebel:
Or 12 of them. But, you know, if you - there - these are the things - science is a constant. It's not guesswork. So, we also have the greatest - Dr. Huizenga, one of the greatest physicians and staff from Sandy to athletic trainers. They've been doing it for ten seasons. We have an amazing support staff to make sure to make sure that every program and is safe and customized for each person on the team.

Question:
What about your certifications?

Cara Castronuova:
I'm certified with International Sports Science Association. I also am licensed in New York State as a boxing trainer and USA - I'm formerly certified with USA Boxing. But, I - you know, I learned a lot from my certifications and from the training that I've done with clients in the past, but nothing could prepare you, I just want to put that out, or any trainer for what we do here at The Biggest Loser Ranch.

It's something that's magical and something that's amazing. And not one page that I read in the book that I studied for my certification, or one class I took could possibly prepare me for what it takes to be a successful trainer on The Biggest Loser Ranch, which is just being a person who is empathetic; a person that knows how to push people; a person that knows how to get in somebody's head; a fighter who knows how to teach somebody to get up when they fall down, pick them up again.

There was not one class I took when I was - you know, in my certification. But by far, my competitive athletic background and my life has been the best preparation for me, and the successful weight loss we've had, which we are neck-in-neck with Bob and Jillian right now. We've had amazing results, but the combination of Brett and I has been just an amazing four.

Brett Hoebel:
I second that. Your life experience is not - I mean, the training is actually the easy part that - the weight loss, because they're like semi-professional athletes. They're here seven days a week training three, four times a day, the nutrition is taken care of; like that's not the hard part.

The emotional breakthroughs that they have is the hard part. Getting them to open up and that comes from your relatability and your like life experiences. I have a - I have kind of a laundry list of certifications and stuff - seminars and stuff I've gone through. If you go to my Web site and look at my bio there is a list of them. So, I really want to sit here and voice them, anything - everything from training to Olympic Lifting, to Kettle Bell, to - I mean, there's a lot. I've been in this business for almost 20 years. I have a premed background, so there's a lot.

Cara Castronuova:
And there's no certification. I could teach you, if you don't mind my saying, there's no - like there's no certification that will ever teach you the nerve to get in a contestants face and call them out. And you know get them to have an emotion break - you know, emotional breakthrough. There's nothing that could ever teach you that, except being the person that you.

And I have trained fighters in the past, I consider the contestants be fighters. They are fighters. They're just as strong as every boxer that I've ever trained, and I treat them as such.

Question:
On this week's episode when the unknowns showed up for the challenge, the people training with Bob and Jillian are calling them the bad guys and things like that. What do you think about that perception that the people training with you are the bad guys this season?

Brett Hoebel:
That's not us. They're coming in the black vans and we're the unknowns, and it's fun. I think it's mysterious. But look, we're down to earth people, we're both from New York, Cara and I, we really care about contestants, and our contestants are great people. It's - we're the underdogs is the reality. We're not the bad guys. We don't have ten seasons under our belts, over 25,000 pounds lost, so if anything I feel like we're coming in as the underdogs, not the bad guys.

Cara Castronuova:
Well, we have a bunch of guys that - we have us a lot of guys, they're real tough guys, but they're big softies deep down. You know, we have a lot of guys on our team that are just - you know, just tough guys. They seem - but they're like gentle - you know, gentle giants, I liked to call them at first. Not anymore, they're losing weight. They're so sweet and so soft on the inside.

Question:
Did you feel any pressures stepping on to the show? It's been on for so many seasons, Bob and Jillian have certainly made a name for themselves. Did you guys feels pressure, stressed out, or anything stepping into the show?

Cara Castronuova:
Yeah. I - of course there was pressure stepping on to the show because, you know, Bob and Jillian have been doing this for eleven seasons now, and they've had amazing results. They're iconic. They're the best. But, to have - to be honor - for me it's an honor to train alongside the best because that's only going to make me better, and it's going to make me want to fight harder and make me want to, you know, do it as the best I can for the contestants.

So, it's been a great experience for me. But yes, it has been intimidating because, you know, Bob and Jillian, they're great. They're just great, you know? It's been - it's also been - they taught - you know, you learn a lot when you're around people that know what they're doing. You're - it's a constant learning process. So, I'm grateful that they're here, you know, because they're showing us, you know, what they do best, which is train contestants to lose weight and gather themselves mentally. They're experts at that.

Brett Hoebel:
I definitely second that. There is feeling of one and two - look, Bob and Jillian, two of the greatest trainers, over 25,000 pounds lost, ten seasons, they have inspired America, and coming in I want to do that part. We want to do that part. We want to carry on that tradition. It's not a competition. I think the pressure is, we want to make sure that, you know, we live up to the expectations of America and to our contestants.

They're under our supervision. They need to be here. We don't want them to get eliminated and go home. We want them to get in great shape and keep inspiring the people in America. So, you know, we want to fulfill that expectation, but we don't feel it's a competition.

Question:
How difficult was it to keep secret about the fact that you two were the unknown trainers when speculation was running pretty rampid the past few weeks?

Brett Hoebel:
I think it was - well, it was very difficult. I mean, when I got the word I - you know, it was for real, but a little bit anti-climatic because they were like - Cara and I had to jump through, and first the cast was individual, all these hoops to jump through individually, then they paired us up, and then we had to jump through more hoops as a pair.

Finally, we get the call from the head of one the production companies that puts the show on the air, "Would like to talk to you guys." And we're both like, "You know what, if we - if he wants to just say you don't have it, send me a text" But, he puts them down there, we're sweating bullets, we're getting driven over there her and I are kind of like "What do you think? What do you think? What do you think?" We get in there, he's sitting there and he's totally quiet. He goes, "Two things. Number one, you got the gig. Number two, you can't tell anybody." I mean, can you get anymore anti-climatic? We wanted to fist pump, baby, and we couldn't even do it.

So yeah, it was tough. You want to - there's been so many people that have supported us over the years, from coaches to friends to family, and you can't tell them. And it's like, "Oh, by the way, I'm going to L.A. for six months to, I don't know, I'll figure it out and tell you guys later." You know, it's hard.

Cara Castronuova:
Yeah. For me, too, it was totally hard. I came out here to L.A. from New York, everyone wanted to know why I was coming out here. I told my close family and my brothers, but besides them I didn't let anyone in on it, including my - you know, my aunts, my uncles, my cousins, certain friends from my hometown.

I wanted to kind of see, because I knew how they were going to be showing us kind of parts of us and hear our voice, the back of our heads. I wanted to see if the people closest to me would to recognize me just from my voice, because I know a lot of my friends watch the show and a lot of my family are big fans of The Biggest Loser.

And it was crazy because after Episode 1 and all they showed was really the back of my head and just me, you know, you can hear my voice and me yelling, I got so many texts from family members and from cousins and friends and people I went to high school. It was like, "Is that you? Is that you on TV," like they knew. So I'm like, "Wow, people know me better than I thought. They know me from the back of my head," you know? So, it was pretty cool.

Brett Hoebel:
I think it was a blessing in disguise to be honest, because if we had all the news attention and distractions, I think I would have - it would have been a distraction.

Cara Castronuova:
Right.

Brett Hoebel:
We just put our nose down, we focused on getting to know the contestants, and the proof is in the pudding. We've broken two of the biggest records in Biggest Loser history.

Question:
If you had to describe your training style in one word what would it be, and why?

Cara Castronuova:
I would say it's hard. I would say really hard. I like to push the contestants as hard as they could possibly go to show them how strong they are. You know, I love when they say they can't do something because I like to prove to them that they're way more capable of what they thought. And in the process they win their own self respect and they just feel like stronger. So, it's just hard with a capital H. Actually, in bold, H-A-R-D. With ten exclamation points at the end.

Brett Hoebel:
I'd say transformational. You know, the intensity is one thing for me, there's a lot - the martial arts training adds a whole mental and emotional components to it. But the bottom line of the training for me, I've got to transform these people mentally, emotionally, and physically; bottom line.

And there is a lot of tools you've got to pick on. Sometimes it's intense training, sometimes it's back it off. Sometimes it's this. You have to know when to pull, you know, different tools out of your toolbox and apply it. Sometimes it's coming at them hard like the alpha, and backing off as a beta, but the bottom line is you've got to transform people.

Question:
What are your own workout regimens like and eating habits? Are there any days where you can have a glass of wine or share nachos with a friend, or is all fattening things off limits?

Cara Castronuova:
I mean, honestly we're people. We're human beings. Like Brett and I love to sit down together and eat, you know, a good meal. But you know reward ourselves once in a while, but it's moderation. It's total - you know, in self control, so I like to each chocolate just as - and pizza, that's my vice, just like everybody else, but if I - you know, if I do it I just have to keep it under control.

I exercise every day. I like to run. I like to job. It clears my mind. I do some strength training. I love to box. For me, it's not a workout, it's a hobby. So, I'm constantly moving. When I'm working out with the contestants that's a workout in and of itself because I get very involved, so I'm burning calories there.

And I just, you know, keep a healthy, simple diet where I'm not overly, you know, what's the word? I'm not starving myself, I'm constantly feeding my metabolism. But at the same time, if I want to go out one night and have a nice dinner I'm not going to - you know, I'm not going to sweat it the next day.

Brett Hoebel:
Yeah, I think I come at it - I learned a lot of these lessons through martial arts. It's about balance. You can have a high - I don't want to say a cheap day, you have a high calorie day, and then you train hard. You train harder the next day or the day after. You just have to figure that out.

One thing I know for sure, if you think of exercise as a 60-minute commitment three times a week at a gym, you're missing the point completely. If you think that going on a diet has something to do with nutrition, I think you're missing - you don't see the forest through trees. It is a lifestyle. I know it sounds cliche, but you have to find things that you love to do.

Cara loves to box and cross-train, and run. I love Capoeira and martial arts. I don't think of that as doing exercise. I'm going to do Capoeira because I want to get better at Capoeira, not better at a bicep curl. And the nutrition part, if you diet you go on and off diets. Having a nutrition regimen is something you integrate into your life.

Question:
For the average person watching, if you can tell me to do one workout regimen what would it be, or one type of workout what would it be?

Brett Hoebel:
Interval training is something that I would suggest. Most people - I would anaerobic interval training and you can do it through using weights, like dumbbells, kettle bells. You can do it on a treadmill, but the reason this really work is it raises your metabolism. It metabolically stimulates the body so that you burn calories after you work out.

That is one of the tricks and why we have broken two of The Biggest Loser records is boxing, which Cara is a professional at, is a great anaerobic activity and it can also be aerobic. But - and then a lot of the resistance training, the metabolic resistance training, or MRT circus that I put them through, it got this metabolism.

So, you not only get an increased tolerance to lactic acid, which is what they need because they're doing a lot of this type of training. It also increases their aerobic capacity, so when they're training aerobically, and you get this acid burn. The metabolism gets jacked up so that they're burning calories after they work off - workout. And if you do it the right way with the weights, not just running, you build lean muscle and lean muscle burns fat.

So, I think that is the science behind training that is neglected in a lot of people's training programs because they don't understand the science behind it.

Cara Castronuova:
I would say they should try shadow boxing to see if they like it. A lot of the contestants this season have been shadow boxing a lot. You can do it in your own living room, you don't need to go to a gym, you don't need to go outside, it's just - could be done in a very contained space. And a lot of the contestants this season have injuries that, you know, they can't walk as well as other contestants, or sometimes they, you know, they couldn't actually run or jog at all.

So, I had them sit - actually doing seated shadow boxing and the - some of them lost a tremendous amount of weight. And, you know, some of them - the bigger guys that lost the most weight, a lot of them did it actually sitting down shadow boxing. So, it's just punching really hard in the air. They do it for like an hour as a cardio exercise and the weight just came off. And I - it's a great exercise, I think, for people watching, you know, the show.

They could do it as they're watching the show. They can do it watching TV and sitting in your living room just to get started. And eventually, you could gradually get up and start moving around the room just boxing, but it's a great workout.

Brett Hoebel:
That's the greatest thing about the shadow boxing she did with a lot of the people is they didn't need any equipment. I thought you were asking about an exercise technique, but an exercise, what I would also suggest is people can run. They do intervals running, so you basically run fast for 30 seconds, and then you walk slowly for a minute. And after the 30 seconds of running you should really be out of breath.

So, we would do a talk test. If you say the alphabet, every five letters you should be out of breath. That tells you that you're running at a hard enough intensity, but you don't need a gym or a treadmill for that. Go outside, run hard for 30 seconds, walk for a minute, and do that for like 20 minutes and it's a great interval workout.

Cara Castronuova:
The last thing I want to say with the shadow box is put music on because then it feels like you're dancing and you really get into it. So, if you can put music on in your living room and just, you know, sit there. If you're out of shape and start off seated, just move into the music punching, just - you know, in the air for, you know, an hour or whatever watching your show. And then, eventually move on to getting up and moving around the house getting into it, and then to running outside and punching as you want.

That's another thing I love to tell the contestants to do because a lot of them have, you know, the bad legs and whatnot, so they can't run as fast. They can't jog as fast. So, if they're throwing out arms at the same time as jogging lightly, they're going to burn as many calories. The heart rate is going to go up as much as if they were running harder, but they can't because they have the knee injury and the leg injury.

Question:
Have you ever considered doing a show for children?

Brett Hoebel:
I don't know about doing a show. I leave that up to the producers, but we're hoping to do a segment where Cara and I go into a school and get to work with kids. That's something that was mentioned that we're really hoping to have done, because I think - I know Cara and I have had experience working with kids. We look forward to doing it again.

Cara Castronuova:
Yeah. I mean, I don't know if they would ever - I don't think they would ever do something like, you know, they do for just kids. But, I personal have kids and childhood obesity is something that, you know, fighting childhood obesity is something that's important to me, so I would love to work with kids on the side. I don't know about doing a show, but anyway I could I help at all, you know, it's something that I definitely want to start doing more of.

Brett Hoebel:
Well, I wouldn't mind saying, it depends what you say as kids. But, we have two - you know, the obesity epidemic with children is really one of the, I think, most saddest things that's happening right now. It used to be called late onset diabetes and now it's called Type II because so many children have it they can't call it that anymore. And we have two 20-year olds, 20 years old who I consider kids that were over 100 - like - often was over 100 pounds overweight. And I think it's - it is needed and hopefully - I'm not sure if Biggest Loser will be, but I hope somebody does a show for it.

Question:
So many people have been smitten by the idea of this sitting and shadow boxing, Did they look at you like you were crazy the first time you suggested it, and how many calories do you think you can burn while you're doing that?

Cara Castronuova:
It's a lot of - especially for a big guy like some of the guys in the - you know, even the girls that we have. The bigger you are the more calories you're burning. So, they were burning an equivalent of spending an hour on the treadmill, but you're jogging if not more, because they're engaging their whole body and really getting into it.

And it's just like - it was - it's just so precious to watch because they would get into it so much they would have actually have shadow boxing competitions. We had like everybody in the room and I was even there to push them on, and they're just going as hard as they possibly can trying to see who's burning because they have the body build, which is reading the calories what's burning on their arms.

So, they're all having competitions to see who could burn the most calories by shadow boxing on the couch at night when I'm not even there training them. This is like 12:00 at night, you know? They just love it. So yeah, at first, you know, people are always like, "Okay, could you really burn this many calories sitting down?"

But, it was just proven if you - I don't know if you're familiar with Moses from the Moses, from the gray team, he's one of the characters I think in the last episode. He hurt his knee and he - you know, he had a legitimate injury coming onto the show where he was actually really not able to walk, and everybody was worried about him, including myself. I was like, "Okay, what are we going to do?" So, I figured out like, "Okay, I'm going to have you sit here and I just want you punching." And soon enough, sweat is flying off his face, you know. He's getting into and it's like a kind of dance to him, and he's - he lost so much weight that week. I think he was pretty much one of the top losers that week without being able to walk.

So for me, it was inspirational because he proved that there is no excuses. Where there's a will there's a way and he did something that was totally different. That everyone else is in the gym on the treadmills, he's in his room sitting on his bed staring at a wall shadow boxing, because he had that - you know, he had that warrior mentality, where there's a will there's a way, and he did it. And it's just something that the contestants have embraced ever since. Just shadow boxing, if you do it anyway. You could be in your kitchen doing it.

It gives you core workout. It's engaging your whole body. Then eventually, you're going to want to get up and - you're going to want to stand up and start moving around the room like a - you know, like a real boxer and just punching, moving, you know, body weaving, flipping, and incorporating your whole body.

It's just - it's a great arm workout. I mean, it's - a lot of the contestants that have been doing it, their arms are so toned and - they're so toned and their abs are coming out. So, it's a great workout for your muscles, as well as the cardio workout.

Question:
Did you have a reaction when seeing Don and Dan's plus nine weight gain? And Cara, being new to the celebrity training world, I was wondering what would you say has been the biggest challenge so far?

Brett Hoebel:
It was a very big shock and a surprise and, you know, I've learned not to judge a book by its cover. And I - all I can comment on about game play and throwing a weigh-in is, I just - if you do that it's been proven in Biggest Loser history that the biggest game players always gain the weight back, so why do it?

So, I think this show has an amazing history of keeping weight off, but when all you do is go in and you try to play a game, the weight comes back on. It's been shown time and time again. So, I don't think it's worth it to these guys. What's worth it is learning the lessons, giving 100% in every workout, so that you build the mental, physical, and emotional strength that you're going to need when you're not at the ranch and you're at home with kids and work and the stress and the this. If you just play the game, it's - you're going to lose in the end.

Cara Castronuova:
I mean, to be honest, when that whole thing occurred we were not training Don and Dan. We weren't even - we weren't at the Ranch, so we really weren't up to speed on what was going on with that. So, I really can't comment on it. I didn't know Don - I wish I would have gotten to know Don and Dan personally.

I never had the opportunity to get in to even meet them because we were on the ridge, so I really don't - I really can't comment on that because I don't want - you know, I don't want to speculate. But, I mean, from what I heard they were great guys and that's all I could really say, because I don't know.

Yeah, it's definitely been challenging. I feel like I have to work ten times as hard as everyone else to gain the respect of the contestants. I'm not walking on as a celebrity trainer. You know, I don't have fans or whatever, so I'm walking on and people - I have - they have to just trust me as me, as Cara, as a person and respect me as me, as Cara, as a person. It's just not going to come to me. I have to earn it.

So, it's been earning the respect and the trust of the contestants. And I've been totally - and I know they trust me, I know they respect me, and the feeling's mutual, but that is definitely a challenge I had coming in because I didn't just step up and everyone saying, "We're going to listen to every single thing you say and do because you're so and so. You're a celebrity trainer." It's like, "No, I had to earn that."

Brett Hoebel:
So that - you know, just to add a comment, we both did because we're both the unknowns and even if - to come in with this status, Bob and Jillian are two iconic trainers that have been doing this for ten seasons and it - I don't think it would matter what your celebrity background is, because they were actually choosing us for immunity and they all said it. So - and they didn't know who we were.

Just to give you an idea, I think, you know, that was both of us coming in and having to earn the respect, and I think that's also why we got such great results with them.

Cara Castronuova:
And another challenge that I experienced, to put that out there too, was not letting things get in my head, because of course people are going to question who I am. Of course, everyone was asking us, you know, saying, "Who are you? You know, how did you - why are you here?"

So, not letting things get in my head has been also challenging too, because knowing what I'm capable of, knowing who I am, not letting anything distract me from my - you know, my vision of helping the contestants lose weight and just become mentally strong. And I - you know, keeping that in my head and just not letting things on the outside distract me has been challenge, but something again, I feel like I've been successful at.

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