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The Biggest Loser Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

This is an interview with Anna Kournikova, Dolvett Quince and Todd Lubin on September 12, 2011 about the show The Biggest Loser.

Anna Kournikova and Dolvett Quince

Question:
Anna and Dolvett, can you both talk about how you each approached healthy eating habits in combination with physical activity?

Dolvett Quince:
I approached it the way I approach all of my clients. We base where they are, their BMI and then make a decision from there where they can be from an additional standpoint is based on their old habits. We will try to introduce new habits obviously so that's pretty much how we gear it.

Anna Kournikova:
I really followed the information and all the guidelines and charts that Dr. Huizenga on the show has created. They create a chart for each contestant. And I really made sure that we'd try to stick to that, to the calories to the intakes to the how much they spend and everything and just really use my own personal knowledge that I gathered working with the best of nutritionists while I was a professional athlete.

Question:
Anna since you've competed at such a high level on the tennis tour how has the Biggest Loser pushed you in unexpected ways both physically and mentally?

Anna Kournikova:
It's definitely a very different experience where I was always the one being told what to do and follow instructions to the T. This was a total role reversal where I just told people what to do based on what I've learned from the best nutritionist, the best sports psychologist, the best coach, trainers, all those things. And it's definitely just brought me back to the organized discipline ways that I used to be when I was a professional athlete. The last few years have been kind of more relaxed for me but it definitely was a very easy kind of jump right back into being super disciplined, dedicated, and just spending a lot of hours and time with these people trying to really change their thinking and mentality.

Question:
Dolvett and Anna, it would appear that you both are walking into kind of a tough situation. The show just lost Jillian Michaels who was a huge draw for viewers. And last season there were two new trainers just like you guys who came in and didn't work out. So do you feel any added pressure because of that and why or why not?

Dolvett Quince:
I don't feel any added pressure because I've been doing this thing for so long, this thing I call which is personal training. And I'm very confident with being able to assist people in changing their lives. So I didn't come there with a mindset of trying to be anything different than other than what I am and that's a trainer. The heart of me, I love what I do and I wanted to translate that to these people especially these obese people that could use my experience. So I walk into it with that confidence. And I also have a confidence of an amazing support team in Todd Lubin and even Gaha with Beverly and all these other people around me not to mention Dr. Huizenga and Cheryl as well. With that support system you definitely have a great confidence coming in to this situation.

Anna Kournikova:
I didn't feel any pressure. I mean I was the one that went after this opportunity to be on the Biggest Loser to be able to have the opportunity to train with these people and help them become healthier. Like I said earlier I've worked with the best nutritionists, the best psychologist, the best coaches, trainers, all those things. And for mean I've stored all of that information. I've used my body as a tool my whole life on a tennis court being a professional athlete. So for me it was just literally instead of now listening to all the information that was thrown at me I was just repeating it and voicing it to the contestants and sharing it with them.

I can't speak obviously for him but I didn't feel like I was replacing anyone or trying to fill in anybody's shoes. We all have our own styles. I for me the biggest draw was that I had all this knowledge, that I live and breathe sports, fitness, nutrition, well-being and helping people. So for me that was a perfect combination. I've been working with kids involving kids into sports since 2003 working with Boys and Girls Club full-time and just promoting sports and healthy active lifestyles. So it was a completely natural role for me. And yes maybe I've never trained, trained like Dolvett's clients and people in a gym every day but that's my profession is being a an athlete. And literally I just had to repeat everything to the people I was training now.

Question:
Anna, what would you say to people who have not having seen you train think to themselves oh she just got picked because she's beautiful?

Anna Kournikova:
I love that you asked that question because people always ask me well how can you relate to the contestants, you know? They are obese than they are this and that. And I'm like listen I get criticized and judged all the time whether or she's just too pretty, she's not good enough she wasn't a good athlete. But to be a top ten in the world that's something. I'm sure you would like to be a top ten journalist in the world right? That wouldn't be so bad. So to be a top ten tennis player in the world I must have been doing something right. And I've achieved everything with my pure hard work and dedication.

And I came from Soviet Union from really nothing from a very, very modest background. And that's how I also tell the contestants that's how I can relate to them. That's how I can understand them is that I know what it's like to be judged and criticized whether it's because of your weight, whether it's because of how you look, whether it's people looking at you just they think they have all these preconceived notions and I'm okay with that. The only thing I can do and the only thing that I control is I can work hard, be the best human being I can and that's it.

Question:
I'm sure that you talked with the contestants a lot but can you talk about what you learned yourself? This is a first time experience for you?

Dolvett Quince:
You know it's funny because when you're helping someone out you're also learning a lot about yourself at the same time. And when someone is obese and they're dealing with those issues there's a lot of emotional attachment to that. It's not just weight. It's issues emotional issues and your background. And for me personally hearing some of the contestants stories forced me to look at my own story. And I actually had more things in common with some of the contestants this season than I admitted.

So as I'm helping them go through this journey it forces you to look at the person in the mirror and say wait, I'm not that different than you. As a matter of fact like Anna just said I relate to you in more ways than I've admitted. So I think for me personally it's been that for me. I've been able to relate to their background stories. And we all go through trials and tribulations. We just deal with our issues differently so yes.

Anna Kournikova:
I think the only reason why I was ready now when I'm 30 to go on this journey because it's a huge responsibility to go on the Biggest Loser, such an amazing show and to help these people. You're their best friend, you're their trainer, you're there person there trying to work on - listen to their things mentally that they're going through. So I was only ready for it now. I don't think I could've handled it five years ago or even three years ago because I don't think I was mature enough or went through my own discovery journey.

But I definitely just learned for me it was more of oh I've done all of this my whole life. It was basically just being very disciplined, showing up, spending a lot of time in the gym and working physically hard but also mentally hard. And that's what you go through when you're a professional athlete. You know, you get to a certain level where everybody kind of is on the same level. You know, you all play good tennis. It's then who's mentally tougher, who can get to the finals instead of the semi-finals.

So for me it was that kind of thing. Like it was pretty comfortable falling back into kind of a routine just working hard, being disciplined and working on your mental issues. So it's not that I didn't learn anything about myself. What I understood again here how committed and dedicated I can be into something I believe in so much.

Question:
Now that you've been working on the show for a few months how has the experience been? Has it been like you had imagined it? Is it completely different?

Anna Kournikova:
For me personally it's definitely different. It's what you said one thing is watching it and the other thing is actually being there. And you literally become family with these people. You care and you become so involved and attached where you also have to be careful there's a fine balance that you still have to keep a little bit of a distance and a fresh perspective. So I mean it's definitely different. I love the working out, the spending time with the contestants.

What I really don't like and it kind of just annoys me because I'd rather be working out is like the camera stuff. The actual TV part of it because I've never been on a TV show. And like for me it drives me crazy waiting for the cameras to set up something like that because I'd rather just be exercising and burning the calories off. But it's all-consuming and I was dedicated and committed. But I love that that's why I did the spread. That's what I wanted to be on the Biggest Loser. I was ready. I knew that I could be committed. And I knew that my heart was in the right place. I knew I had all the knowledge. And I was just in it focusing and literally -like treating it as a professional athlete where this is my life.

Question:
Anna, as a professional tennis player and certified trainer what do you think you brought to the table as one of the Biggest Loser's newest trainers?

Anna Kournikova:
The fact is that I treated my body as a tool my whole life to be able to perform on the tennis court and to be a professional athlete. And I've worked with the best psychologist sports psychologist, the best nutritionists, the best trainer, the best coaches. So for me it was literally just using all that information that has been drilled into my brain for the last 25, 23 years and voicing it and sharing it with the contestants.

And also I've been working with the Boys and Girls Club and a couple of other charities, with the USO and with PSI where I am spreading the message of healthy, well-being, and lifestyle and getting kids into sports and all those sorts of things. So I mean I know that I didn't have a lot of experience or much experience working with obese people but that's why we have an amazing support system who including Dr. H. and the nutritionist Cheryl Forberg. And really it's basic science and math. And really the most important trick is explaining it to the contestants and motivating them. Because really it's about calories and hours of exercise you know what I mean? So it's not rocket science but it's disciplined, dedication and understanding how it works.

Question:
Dolvett, with ten years training experience under your belt why did you decide to appear on the Biggest Loser?

Dolvett Quince:
I felt like what it asked of me was definitely up my alley. I mean I've been experiencing helping people change their lives for well over ten years. Was it amazing? Absolutely because the challenge was dealing with working and changing obese people's lives from one extreme to the other, I feel great about that.

So when Biggest Loser came to me absolutely I wanted to take advantage of that. I don't think there is anyone in the health and fitness field that wouldn't want to be in my position helping out people with this extreme on this platform. So for me to be a part of NBC, be a part of the Biggest Loser I'm extremely honored. I'm definitely honored. I'm happy to be here to put my brand out there as well.

Question:
Good. I was wondering if you could tell about some of the highlights you had while working on the Biggest Loser?

Dolvett Quince:
Some of the highlights just of course watch the transformation of some of the people. You know, the challenges were never easy. It's so competitive so to see the competitive edge of what people would do to ensure that they're at the front to watch some of the people bond. My personal experience has been great because I work with such an amazing crew every single day. And I really, really love going to work every day not just because of the crew but also because there's a great warmth in the house in the ranch this season where people are getting along great. I get along famously with Anna and Bob and the contestants. Everything, the energy is just good, you know. So you guys know listening anytime you're in a work environment where you actually love coming to work that's a good day so I'm very fortunate to come into that environment.

Anna Kournikova:
It's very interesting. It's like where do I begin? It's everything. It's the great moments. There was some tough moments. It's the roller coaster. It's an emotional journey. You know, I had amazing time where I see the contestants succeed. And I see Bonnie who's 63 years old with a knee replacement get off the floor. But then there was also sad moments where you see the disappointment on somebody on the contestant's face on some days when she gains weight or something like that. So it's life. I mean we spent four months with these contestants. And it was just great or it was definitely some incredible moments and there were definitely some disappointing moments.

But overall the most important from the beginning for me was that I share with the contestants as many tools and information as I can so they can take all that information, learn all the things they need to learn and be able to apply and use it in their life after the ranch because sooner or later and obviously everybody is going home. So for me the overall objective and goal of the whole season and experience was that these people not only lose weight while they're sequestered on the ranch but that they can sustain and maintain the healthy lifestyle and their weight off the ranch.

Question:
What is it about the Biggest Loser that you guys feel continues to be such a draw for viewers?

Anna Kournikova:
I think it's because there's so many different stories and people can relate. You're going to relate to one or more people. That's a given. That's like a gazillion percent. Everybody has such incredible stories whether they're young, whether they're older. It's definitely a feel good incredibly inspiring show. And obviously these people have tried to do everything they can when they were home to lose the weight and change their life's around. Most of the time you need a great support system and team and just basically education to turn your life around. I feel like everybody will be able to relate it with at least one person on the show. And I think that's what attracts the viewers.

Dolvett Quince:
I definitely echo that. I think the attraction is if it's not you yourself then you know a family member or a friend who that person can remind you of is the ultimate soap opera. You see everyone go through their changes. And what's more motivating than working out, whether you're working out with your girlfriends doing yoga or you're working out with your friends doing a 5K? Whatever it might be to that comradery is so relatable. So people tap in for that as well. It's not easy but if you accomplishment it's the perfect hero story.

Question:
One question I have for both of you is how do you deal with the emotions of the Biggest Loser contestant?

Anna Kournikova:
For me it's been very interesting because I'm a woman. I obviously do have my ups and downs emotionally. I think girls are more emotional in general. And but there's times where you really have to focus and separate and motivate yourself. Even being a professional athlete certain days you don't feel like going on the court or certain days you don't feel like being in front of 20,000 people but you trick your brain, your mind to go out there and perform. And that's where for me what was super helping from my past is that I did work with a sports psychologist.

I did also go personally through therapy since I was 20 years old for a few years because I did have issues with my family. So I did work a lot in both in that area working with a therapist, working with a psychologist. And I feel like I've gained a lot of knowledge and tools to be able to listen and understand and be able to give good advice to the contestants how to kind of manipulate their brain and trick them into starting to believe in themselves and by physical activity. Like the accomplishment that they make during their physical activity I think really makes a huge difference and makes them confident.

Dolvett Quince:
I think if you're a great listener and you can listen to what a person is saying, pay attention to body language, what are they not saying and couple those two in is a certain skill set. I'm not a psychologist by any means but what I am is I take a lot of pride in just being a good listener and caring enough to want to help someone, not just aesthetically because there's a million trainers in America alone. And anyone can have the ability to some degree change someone's body.

But if you can have the ability to sit down and have an ear to assist someone through whatever's going on that day or whatever's going on in their life in general that got them to that point to find the source of that and bit by bit with the right help from the right team i.e., the right psychologist backing you, the right doctors backing you I'm just a spark and a tools of setting a fire in a new direction. So it is possibly one of the hardest things to do is to help someone tap into their emotions and face their demons if you will. But once you get it going it's the best breakthrough ever because that hopefully will lead to a person who will never be obese again.

Question:
Todd we've heard from Anna and Dolvett why they wanted to do the show. What was it that the producers saw in them that made them decide to cast them?

Todd Lubin:
I guess it's not a satisfying answer to say I can't wait for you to watch the premiere. But you will see I think that what comes through mostly, the most apparently from both of these guys is heart. It's like you cannot build that. It's not something you can buy. It's all you're looking for in a casting session. And when we got to meet Anna and Dolvett separately it was so apparent that these guys have an innate sense of connection with people because that's really so much of this job.

I mean you have to be extremely knowledgeable about fitness, and extremely knowledgeable about nutrition, and you have to be a motivator. But there's an X factor of someone who you can look in the eyes of and say I'm going to keep going. And especially for our contestants who really need a push. We're not talking about like decent athletes who needed extra little push over the hill. We're talking about like people who really have lost it. And so when you look into Dolvett's eyes or into Anna's eyes you can tell. You can just tell that they care. And that was the no-brainer for us. I mean it really was like this is great.

Question:
Can you talk about the new theme this season with Battle of Ages and how that came about, the decision behind it?

Todd Lubin:
It's something we've wrestled with for a long time. We've had a winner who's a 48-year-old. Helen was a winner. I think she was 48. Last season alone our at home winner Denny was in her 50s I believe. I'll get you the exact number.

Anna Kournikova:
Fifty-nine, she was 59.

Todd Lubin:
Fifty-nine. And then we had an at-home winner who was 63. And so we've always sort of felt like age was a number. And so we just thought what a great sort of catchy thing to sort of say that it's never too late in your life to try to make a difference. It's never too late to sort of grab your life by the horns. And what we've sort of found I mean if there is a sweet spot it's like people who aren't too young we haven't really haven't had to face life with a disability of being so overweight and the there's like a whole like discipline that middle-aged folks have for lack of a better term I mean I'm in that age group that it's like they feel like they're getting a shot. And so it was certainly a test.

I mean it's not easy, I would say that the casting not only did we cast all different ages but the older folks were not the healthiest we've ever had. It's definitely a double hit for those folks because it just was just how it turned out. We obviously cast for personalities and people that we love and we think America will love so the fact that they were really physically incapacitated in some ways to not help. But again all interesting stuff, all interesting life stories, all interesting relatable things that you can look at these people and really be inspired that they're going for it and they're not giving up. So that'll be ages. It was like kind of a no-brainer. It was fun.

Question:
Anna and Dolvett, obviously we know that the two of you take training very seriously. And obviously you have to because you're dealing with these people's lives. But you're also doing it in a very different format. You're doing it on reality television. You're doing it with twists and different gamesmanship elements. So how do you sort of make it work in this format especially when you don't know how long you're going to have with some of these contestants?

Dolvett Quince:
You do the best job you can do with every time that you're given. You make it the best. And you'll see when you watch the show that the time that we're putting in is extremely beneficial. One of the things that motivated me about coming on board this season was the fact that Biggest Loser is going more lifestyle based and to me that's huge. You know, I've been in the lifestyle business for so long it motivates me to be with a team of individuals who understand that it's not just about the quick fix but it's actually about the entire life, changing your life for the better, be better than yesterday. That to me is huge. Different yes, not a lot of time. Well then we do have time. You know, we make time. And Anna can back this, we find a way to make it work to spend time to help these people change their lives.

Anna Kournikova:
I had plenty of time actually. I was there every day with the contestants. And like I said earlier for me from the beginning it was never about a quick fix. I really focused on the contestants to make sure that they get the tools and the information and the education to take home. And even when I was designing exercises for them for me the key was that they will remember them, that they are able to execute them in their own living room in their own house when they do get off the ranch. So I feel like I was just literally stressing that every word every action. And I did have time with them.

I was there every single day. And I was like a parent repeating things all the time which is plenty of people tell me I do that anyway. But hopefully they just really did absorb it. And I just have this confidence and I think the contestants did absorb it. It was challenging. It was new for them. But I think by really a few weeks into it they really do get a great sense and idea that this is not rocket science. It's basic simple math. It is science. But with hard work and willingness to change your life and the commitment and the sacrifices that they're families are making and the sacrifices that they're making being on this ranch sequestered I think they were committed and they were making things happen.

Question:
As your training the contestants how to live healthier lifestyles do you find that people on set are training the two of you in sort of out to be TV stars and sort of connect with the audience because obviously you need to do that too for the sake of the show?

Anna Kournikova:
For me personally not at all. I actually don't like to be on the spot. And on camera I get a little bit tongue tied in a little bit uncomfortable. As you will probably see in the show I screw my English all the time, not that I speak perfect English anyway as you know I'm Russian. But I actually clam up a little bit on camera. But the best part about it is when I'm just with the contestants exercising and in the gym I am totally able to just lose myself with them and be in the moment.

I didn't want to be on the Biggest Loser to be famous or to be on TV or to be in another magazine cover. I've done all of that in my teenage years, you know. So for me the whole appeal and the only reason why I wanted to be on the Biggest Loser is not to be a television star or any of those things. The most important was to live and breathe exercise and help people and just have a positively experience with these contestants and change their lives.

Dolvett Quince:
The same goes for me. I definitely enjoy what I'm doing with the contestants. And again I'm extremely comfortable with training having had so much experience. I think both Anna and I were chosen because I guess hopefully can say that he saw enough in us to be comfortable when it came to working with cameras, et cetera. The cameras don't act as a distraction. I'm so tunnel visioned when it comes to working out, the people that are in front of me the cameras are a byproduct. With everything else that comes along with whether you're doing a Biggest Loser DVD, et cetera, et cetera I do have experience. So I'm an extremely comfortable. And the things I didn't know I'm an open book and I'm willing to learn. So yes it's been a great ride thus far.

Question:
I was hoping you guys could talk a little bit about your own workout routines or diets that you follow? Is there anything that's off limits for you or do you believe in cheat days?

Anna Kournikova:
Oh yes I mean absolutely. I think it's very important for me personally what works is balance and moderation but also indulging. I personally eat anything or any type of food that is out there, everything from pizza to burgers to healthy oatmeal. I think what really works is moderation. As I've have gotten older now I really am more conscious and focused on the nutritional benefits of the food and the nutritional components. I really try to stick to eating whole foods and natural foods, not so much the packaged stuff. And I work out five, six days a week as much as I can. That's my therapy that's my me time. I've been used to sweating since I was 5 years old since I started playing tennis. So if I go for more or I really never go more than two days without sweating it out in the gym or doing some kind of a sport. My body just needs it and I get anxiety actually if I don't work out.

Dolvett Quince:
My workout regimen is crazy. There's nothing I don't do. I involve everything from yoga, Pilates, strength training, biometrics in a two hour workout. Sometimes I only workout for an hour but I maximize my time and I'm doing two hours because I have to add in some cardio element in what I do. You know, I love working out. It's a release for me. I do anywhere between five to six days a week. I think everyone should have a day of rest. I think everyone should indulge and have a cheat day personally. I agree with Anna from that perspective because you don't want to be too extreme on one side that it just doesn't make sense. You've got to have balance in the middle and enjoy life. And that's what I practice and preach and live by with myself as well as my clients.

Question:
If you had to describe your training style in one word what would it be and why?

Dolvett Quince:
In one word, intense.

Anna Kournikova:
Dedication.

Question:
Anna, you're filling a void how would you prove yourself this season and is your hubby 100% supportive of your work?

Anna Kournikova:
Really it's not about me. I mean for me personally I don't look at the Biggest Loser as the show's about the trainers. The show's about the contestants and I am the support system and the professional on a big team of professionals which includes a nutritionist, a doctor, a psychologist helping the cast members. And that's how I look at myself.

I'm not trying to prove myself at all by any means and I'm just there to do my part of the job which is train and educated the contestants about exercise, about fitness about healthy lifestyle. And all of my family and friends are extremely supportive of what I do or what I want to do because they know that if I do something I do it a million percent. And I'm very committed and dedicated to the things I choose to do. And I don't I'm fortunate enough to be able to go after certain projects that I'm passionate about.

Question:
Todd, what were some of the changes for this season? And at the end of it all do these contestants actually follow through with your plans and directs?

Todd Lubin:
Changes, weren't really too many changes. Each season presents a new story line right, which is new set of contestants who come here who are just like my family or your family or the most relatable people we can get. And you set them off on this incredible journey. And we sit back and watch. And I often tell my producers that we're just so lucky because this show just tells itself.

I think it's like such this story of the human endeavor. And I really don't mean to sound sort of like blase about it. Every season you look at those new contestants, you think to yourself there's no way. There is no way. There's no way they're going to lose weight. There's no way they're going to be able to do the things that have happened in the past and I'm probably going to need to look for a new job. And then and then you add in the mix two totally incredible unique charismatic trainers in Anna and Dolvett in addition to Bob and you just sit back and watch.

And you watch as these people go through things that you truly can't believe it. You truly can't believe. And I'm I'm certainly not just talking about the weight loss but I would say if there's anything the show's sort of evolving towards a doing better at is that we're building athletes, that we are so focused on their lives five years from now. And I say it to the players every time I see them that this isn't really about the finale. This is about your life beyond.

And if you look at Anna and Dolvett this season and you'll see there's a real focus on what's the long-term goal here? What is your long term health? What are we doing to get you healthy and to become an athlete in the long run? And Anna's history as a world-class athlete was all very much a part of this decision. That's always been important to me. I just never felt like the story should be about people and like what they look like in a dress although that's a beautiful moment but it's about health in the long run.

And anyway so what are we doing new this season? I don't know, added two total superstars and then went after an incredibly charismatic contestants including former professional athletes themselves. And then adding to a mix of people in their 60s and of course young ones. And there's even a romance. I hope I didn't give too much away. There's even a romance that buds on the show. So the show is just awesome. We actually really are really, really, really proud of this next season and feel it's a truly a breakout season, one that'll really sort of show where the show is going.

Anna Kournikova:
It's real incredible. I mean remember guys they're sequestered. They are on a ranch. They form and develop relationships. That's why it makes amazing show. These people who are strangers just a couple of days ago before they got on their own they formed and developed relationships. Now add in the mix that they're physically exhausted from working out six to eight hours a day and being on a restricted calorie a healthy restricted calorie budget and there's some very interesting stuff going on. And that's back to the question what makes what does it make such a vibrant, make such a great show, it really is an incredible genius setting. And meanwhile we're figuring out these guys lives and their family's lives because it will affect their family's lives also.

Question:
How far you can push of someone who's older versus someone's who's battling just with their weight only. Does it have that age issue? Because like how do you determine what the limits are and does that change the game play at all this season?

Dolvett Quince:
What it's just paying attention. It's paying attention to their fatigue level. It's paying attention to their mobility while you're working them out. And I'm just not conned easily you know. I definitely know people will tend to give up a lot quicker than their body will allow them to. Just you just being in the room and being in the moment with people in a way that's I can't describe it is much as you have to just watch the season. You're going to love it and we're really dialed in with assisting everyone. So yes it's going to be amazing.

Anna Kournikova:
I really do think that it's very, very different working with younger people, middle-aged people or older people. Old age groups have their pluses and minuses. You know, the young kids are obviously more energetic and but they're not as educated and smart in ways where they're they don't know how to manipulate and use their energy yet well enough. Now the middle age group I think it is already where they have wisdom but they still have enough energy. And obviously the older group is the most difficult for me I think personally because they have less energy.

They're much more set in their own way so it's more difficult to change someone's mentality who's in their 50s or 60s. They're used to doing things their ways and especially when they're dealing with younger people or younger trainers think it's a lot harder to convince them of your authority and your knowledge. And it's just harder when you're older. You're a lot more set in your ways so you're wiser. So if you do understand what you need to do I think you do make that switch a lot faster. I mean but all three groups definitely have its advantages and disadvantages. And it's really figuring out, I think at the end of the day it's still more than age. It's very individual. And each person is just depending on the person.

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