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Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

This is an interview from May 24, 2011 with Amy Bruni and Adam Berry talking about their television show Ghost Hunters.

Amy Bruni

Question:
Can you talk about the new season and going to Pearl Harbor?

Amy Bruni:
I think that the entire TAPS team is pretty excited and touched that Pearl Harbor asked us to investigate there. It was one of those places that we went to with the utmost respect and we were very honored to be there. And so, it was kind of important to all of us to just make sure that we were very respectful of what we were doing there. And, I think that shows in the episode and in our investigation.

Question:
Adam, since winning Ghost Hunters Academy how's it different doing Ghost Hunters? How much has your life changed since that?

Adam Berry:
Well, a lot. I actually travel quite a bit 10 months out of the year, and I don't have to deal with drama or competition really at all. It's a great team that I work with, and there's really no glitches in our system. I was trained appropriately by Steve and Tango, and it just kind of worked out that I meshed well with Amy, and it's been heaven ever since.

Question:
What's your favorite place you've ever been to, or case you've ever done?

Amy Bruni:
I know. Not with TAPS, but I did investigate Waverly on my own, and Waverly Hills is always up there for me. We're going back there this season. It was part of our live show last year. People voted on where they wanted the TAPS team to return to the most, and Waverly Hills won. So we will be going back and investigating there again, which I think we're all very excited about.

Adam Berry:
Yes. I mean, I really liked Sloss Furnaces. That was something way up there on my list. And especially because Meatloaf was involved and he was there, and he's so passionate about the field itself. I think it made it even more special.

Question:
What was the vibe like just walking around Pearl Harbor in the dark, given the history?

Amy Bruni:
Well, we investigated two very different locations there. They're both hangers, but one of them was very restored and was kind of a museum. The other hanger is still in like battlefield condition is how they described it, battle ready. And so, you go in and not much has changed. And, there's still like bullet holes and strafe marks in this hanger from the actual attack.

So, it was just hard to imagine what it was like. And when we got into that second hanger, the larger one that was battlefield ready, that one was more I think kind of drove it home what it was like when it happened, or what it looked like when it happened. And I don't know. It was almost hard to concentrate on our investigation because I think everyone was just so touched by where we were. But, it's hard to describe. Adam, what would you say?

Adam Berry:
Well honored would be the first thing to say.

Amy Bruni:
Of course.

Adam Berry:
And, we knew that there was a great deal of respect that had to go into what we were doing. I mean even though it's still 69, 70 years later, it is a touchy subject. There are still veterans from the war that are around. But the entire island of Hawaii is very familiar with the incident and what happened, and there's still a huge Japanese culture there and the Hawaiian culture. So treading lightly was our main focus, and to show as much respect as we could. But also, we were there to investigate. So, our questions went along with that. Whoever might be there so that they knew if they were listening that we did mean as much respect as possible.

Amy Bruni:
I have to say we were very humbled by how accepting everyone they were of us. There was never any second guessing us or questioning what we were doing. They were very interested in knowing the results of our investigation. Many of the people who work there just wanted answers. So, we were definitely humbled.

Question:
Can you talk about the light source that was seen in the hanger in that episode?

Amy Bruni:
That's honestly one of the craziest bits of evidence we've collected, and we have these new cameras and the fact that we saw something there and then put a camera there because we'd seen something. And then to get evidence as a result of that is amazing in itself because that doesn't happen very often.

Usually you see it and then it's gone. But these new cameras have been phenomenal. And we've been seeing the results from the field. There are many people who do what we do, and we were seeing evidence from them coming in from the field and we were like, "We need to get our hands on some of these." There's definitely more coming from those cameras. I think full spectrum technology is probably one of the biggest things that have happened for the paranormal field in a long time.

Adam Berry:
I was reviewing that evidence of that tape, and when I found that piece, I literally jumped out of my skin. Immediately was texting Amy and we were trying to get together and be like, "Look at this! Look at this! This is crazy you know." And, I think it's definitely going to change the way everyone ghost hunts in the future.

Question:
Did anything happen during the taping of this episode that surprised you?

Adam Berry:
There was a moment when Tango and I were investigating and I was really shocked by this bird that sounded like it just committed suicide from the top rack there. That was probably non-paranormal related, but that thing was the craziest sounding animal I think I've ever heard in a hanger. Anywhere really.

Amy Bruni:
The fact that we even made it to Hawaii at all was a surprise.

Adam Berry:
Yes. I mean, that's true. That is true, gosh.

Amy Bruni:
That was one of those things that we've been talking about I know since I started the show. That piece of evidence we got was huge. And so that was definitely a surprise. I'll have to go back to that. But that was the first of its kind. I think it was fitting that it came from Pearl Harbor of all places.

Question:
You both talked about places you've been that you'd like to go back to. Where have you not been that you would most likely go to?

Amy Bruni:
Everybody wants to go to the lighthouse. I want to go to Graceland because I have a theory that if we go to Graceland and we find Elvis Presley's ghost, we'd like kill two birds with one stone, because one we found his ghost, and two, at that point we know that he's dead.

Adam Berry:
Exactly. That's perfect. I'll second that. That'll be number two on my list.

Amy Bruni:
Think of the ratings for that.

Question:
Other than the full spectrum cameras, was there any other new equipment that you brought with you to this investigation?

Amy Bruni:
I'm trying to think what we brought to Hawaii.

Adam Berry:
We packed pretty much everything we could fit into our suitcases and bags.

Amy Bruni:
They had me ship all our equipment over. I know we have many things we've used since then that are new. Like we've been experimenting with ion generators but I'm trying to think if there's anything else we introduced during the Hawaii episode.

Adam Berry:
I think that the full spectrum camera was the main thing that we were focusing on I believe, just because it was so new to us.

Amy Bruni:
Right.

Adam Berry:
And we used it because we had experienced something. So we saw something and immediately went to full spectrum camera. If we see it again or if anything happens in that general area with that camera, we can place it right here, we'll be able to see it. And I think that's how we really pick the equipment that we use.

Amy Bruni:And so, we have to go to each camera individually and they've probably added a good hour or so to our setup time. But now I think they've got it down to maybe another half hour or so, which is a big deal. I think you'll see more of the episodes following that.

Question:
You've both been with TAPS for a little while. What would you say is the most important thing that you've learned since you started with them?

Adam Berry:
For me, everything. I learned a lot on Academy, but I still learn from Amy every time we go out. And every time we investigate something somewhere I've never been, I'm always learning, especially from the people that I work with, and I work with Amy the most. She keeps me on my toes. She calls me out when need be. And we have a good time doing it. I think that's the biggest thing I've learned from TAPS in general is to work as a team.

Amy Bruni:
Yes. I've learned a lot obviously in regard to paranormal investigations since I've started with the show. But I think that I've learned some lessons too, and one of them is that a paranormal investigation that is put on television is not necessarily how the paranormal investigation always happens, but not everything can always be included.

And I know when I first started, it was really hard for me to read reviews or people critiquing our investigation style, or saying, "Why didn't you do this? Or why did you do that?" When there's 40 minutes of footage they're seeing, and 23 minutes of that is really the investigation if we're lucky if it's an hour episode out of an investigation that spans sometimes 12 to 16 hours. So that's been my biggest lesson, is kind of trying not to respond to every single thing. It's just maintain my integrity and keep the investigation as the first priority, not how it's always received.

Question:
Are you ever going to have an episode where it's strictly based on what the fans want?

Amy Bruni:
We have done that in the past. They're usually given a choice obviously to vote on. We did Beardslee Castle or the Thousand Islands investigation when Meatloaf came out with us. That was a fan choice. It's the most haunted place in the United States or something. And us going back to Waverly Hills this season was a fan choice as well. Syfy regularly runs these great promotions and chances for fans to vote on where they want us to go. So yes, it's always fun to do that.

Question:
Have you ever considered collaborating with other shows that have unsolved ghost cases such as Unsolved Mysteries or something along those lines?

Amy Bruni:
I'm always up for a crossover.

Adam Berry:
That's not a bad idea. We watch each other's shows. We're good friends with Ben Hansen at Fact or Faked, and stuff like that. So we always see things that they're doing, and they see things that we're doing. I'll be online and I'll see a crazy ghost video or something out of the ordinary, and I'm like "Ben, you know check - take a look at this." Because, it's not really our genre, but I think we all have to work together as a team and a group, no matter what we're doing just so we can further the field in any way we can.

Question:
Where did your interest in the paranormal first stem from would you say?

Amy Bruni:
Mine started when I was just a little girl. I lived in a haunted house with my family and I saw a full-bodied apparition. And from there, I just had this really intense interest in it. And my dad and I used to ghost hunt together when I was little, so it's a definitely a different bonding experience, but it got me here.

Adam Berry:
It's funny because when I was a kid I lived in a - kind of a creepy house and things would happen, and I wasn't very scared of them. Of course, my parents would brush them off and whatever. That kind of got me started. I really didn't know you could actually investigate the paranormal until I actually saw the show Ghost Hunters. I figured we could all just talk about it and sit around and be scared about it or whatnot, and then I was like, "Oh. Wait a minute. You can actually like sort of scientifically figure out what's going on? This is crazy." So that's really how it started for me.

Question:
What are some of the challenges you find in your day-to-day job working on the show?

Adam Berry:
Not enough cord length.

Amy Bruni:
Yes. Running out of cable.

Adam Berry:
Running out of power.

Amy Bruni:
I think the biggest challenge for me is just being away from home. I'm probably away from home, I know everybody else is away from home as well, because I live in California and I'm the only team member that's from the West Coast who's on full time. And so, I am probably away from home 300 days a year for the show. So, that's been the biggest challenge. I mean, you kind of put your personal life like on hold and do this. Of course I would never pass up a chance to do what I love for a living, and that's exactly what I get to do. I'll do this for as long as I can. But, that's been the hardest thing. I miss having like a kitchen and cooking.

Adam Berry:
That's a big one. That's definitely a big one. Obviously, more so for Amy just because she lives so far away, but then there's the whole like keeping a regular schedule. We could be up until 6:00, 7:00, 8:00 in the morning and then going to sleep, and the up the next day at 2:00 to do something else. And really keeping on a sleep schedule or finding time for yourself to go to the gym or to eat healthy. We support each other and we all come up with different ideas, "Oh, eat this. Do this. This will help you." And we work on it together.

Amy Bruni:
It's kind of like being on tour except we're not rock stars.

Question:
Amy, you talked about how you had a hard time with everything being cut out of the show because you only get to see this small portion. What is one of the things you most regretted seeing them cut out of the show?

Amy Bruni:
It's not necessarily that they cut them out, it's just they don't always have time to show the lengths that we go to say debunk something. Or maybe we capture a piece of evidence and they show the evidence, they show us showing it to the client. There's not enough time. They don't want to show everything that we did to make sure that the piece of evidence was sound.

I know for example there was a long time ago where there was the pitchfork that fell over when we were at this place called the Amos Blake House. And it was something that we had gone back and tried to disprove it at least a good couple hours after it happened. And even when we went back to do the review, I went back with Jay and Grant and sat off camera because I was so curious about this pitchfork because this thing was just weighing on me.

And Grant and I went back to that room and we went in there and we tried to make it fall again. We jumped around on the floor. We stomped on the wall. They obviously can't show all that stuff, but we did go to that extent, yet I have people you know writing me an email saying, "Oh, it was the camera man walking by it," or, "Oh, it was just your footsteps." And so that's the kind of thing that I have to just let roll off, and just go get Zen for a second.

Adam Berry:
I think the most recent thing that happened was Amy and I did a case but it was so small that Amy and I could go, but we spent hours, and hours, and hours doing the research. She called me in to help her. We were both adamantly at the library doing crazy research and whatnot. And I even think on the show she says, "You know, you're not going to believe what we found in research and worked so hard," and then I'm sure they told the client what we found, but then they didn't show what we found. So Amy got tons of email that was like, "Well, what did you find?? What did you find in the research? You know, what happened?" And it's just little things like that. It's really no big deal. They just didn't have time to put it in. And, Jay and Grant do tell the client, but then we have to go and explain it. And it's fine, as long as they know that we are doing our job.

Question:Have you ever gotten scared when you're kind of in the dark you know looking for whatever?

Adam Berry:
Amy, never.

Amy Bruni:
Adam's really jumpy by the way. I think the scariest thing is not ghosts. But sometimes these places we go into, they're huge and they're old, and they're abandoned sometimes. And no matter how many security checks we do or many times there is security on site if it's like at PennHurst Asylum there was security there just because people find out you're there and it's such a huge area.

But we did a place called Essex County Jail I believe. I was in the basement and I lifted up this kind of manhole cover and I was down there by myself and a camera operator with me. But I lifted up this manhole cover, stood up on this thing and went up into this old boiler room that we didn't think anybody had been into for years. It turned out someone was in there and he lived there. It was a homeless man, and I literally came up and I was in his like nest or house, and he looked at me, I looked at him, and I just quickly went back down. But I was so terrified because I'm more afraid of people than I am of ghosts, and animals too. There are animals sometimes in these places, so yes; absolutely.

Adam Berry:
Amy and I are really freaking out about something that we hear down at the end of the hallway, and we swear to you we thought it was a big rabid animal, dog, or something, and nothing was there. Nothing was there at all. But we were more afraid of the fact that it could be a wild rabid animal than it being a ghost.

Question:
Have other people ever played like pranks on you just to scare you? Or is it kind of more serious?

Amy Bruni:
We're constantly playing pranks on each other. Any chance we get to scare each other in the dark we go for it. And, I got Steve really good at that opera house. He was climbing but he didn't realize these stairs were leading right up to where Adam and I were grabbing something really quick, and so I'm like, "Oh, be quiet. This is it." And so Steve comes walking up the stairs and we jumped out and he just screamed and flails backwards and hurls obscenities. And he's just the best person to scare. It's so much fun.

Adam Berry:
We also try to scare our crew and the crew tries to scare each other, especially when they're walking through alone. It's always fun to hear the stories.

Amy Bruni:
We need to make a blooper reel or something like that. I don't think there's enough time. It would take up hours.

Question:
Amy, Adam mentioned that Pearl Harbor happened about 70 years ago. I was just wondering is there like a pattern or have you noticed that places that are less than 100 years have more paranormal activity than say old homes or ancient castles?

Amy Bruni:
I wouldn't say so necessarily. It's never very predictable. I wish there was some sort of like formula or something. It just kind of seems sometimes we'll go into houses that are brand new that are very, very active. Maybe it's something that's attached to the land, not necessarily the house. I mean, those are the theories that we're looking at. We don't know for sure. And honestly the more we do this the less I feel like I know. But it's definitely not predictable. There's no pattern to it. I wish there was.

Question:
So it doesn't matter on the age of the location?

Amy Bruni:
I don't think so. I really don't, although I haven't seen any like Neanderthal ghosts.

Question:
Adam, going back to the hanger. It seemed like you guys heard a lot of footsteps. Can you talk about what you actually saw inside that hanger?

Adam Berry:
We saw the light. The light was happening for us, which is out of the ordinary. Footsteps. There's lots of things that happen. Your eyes can play tricks on you, especially in that kind of location. We definitely made sure that we weren't you know seeing car lights from outside. We were making sure that it wasn't like a helicopter flying over, and then with a spotlight or anything. We were very you know careful about really trying to pinpoint exactly what we were seeing at the time. And it's a very big place. So, there's really you know, no explanation for some of the things that's happening to us. But, we were able to debunker or really throw away some other things that we could figure out.

Question:
Before you were talking about how the full spectrum cameras were really bringing a lot to the investigations. What other new equipment or techniques would you like to see the team experiment with in the future?

Amy Bruni:
I'm beginning to think there's really something to what Steve and Tango have been doing with their recorders, where they've tried that a few times, and they got their first real results at Mackinac Island, where they basically record their questions and then play them out loud. I personally like to get into that theory a little bit more and see what other tools we could use maybe to further that. But, I'm no audio genius.

Adam Berry:
The full spectrum camera, I wish we had more, we only have a couple. I wish we had like 20 so we could blanket every single corner that we could find.

Amy Bruni:
Now we have more. We have like eight or nine now.

Adam Berry:
Okay. Well then there we go. Then we're fine. The ion generator I think is a really unique piece of equipment, especially when using it with other devices such as recorders or doing the Steve and Tango technique with playing and recording of the audio and using the ion generator to kind of see if you can spark some interest in whatever might be there.

Really, there's no wrong way. As long as people are trying things and we try things all the time that don't work that we're not getting any results or this is just not happening. So we'll put it away for awhile and then bring it out later in the year or something. And sometimes it works for us. We just have to keep experimenting and keep pushing the envelope.

Amy Bruni:
I'm just not a huge techie person, and I think it's because I feel like sometimes I think it's because I've focused on the technical aspect of the investigation for so long and I've been doing this for so long that I almost felt like I was focusing more on that than either experiencing things or collecting evidence somehow. So I know that I've been kind of back to basics a lot recently, and that's for me. Because we have Brent out with us a lot more, and he's very gadget oriented and he and Steve have been working together on some really interesting stuff.

But for me, you've seen me always using the flashlights. I mean, because I almost feel like what's easier for them to understand will give more results almost. I don't see myself as like a ghost counselor or something. I'm always just trying to get some to come out. I focus more on trying to identify with them than I do on the technical stuff per se. But I am always impressed with it and I love it, but I think we all have our different strengths on the team.

Question:
What would you say has been your most memorable non-paranormal experience with the team so far?

Amy Bruni:
It was probably the day when Meatloaf came out with us the first time he came out we were at Thousand Islands, and it was just Jay, Grant, me, Meat, and his wife. We were all in the Yukon and we're driving somewhere, like to lunch or something. And Meat's like, "Oh, I have my new album here. I don't have the audio track on it, but let me pop the CD in and I'll sing the audio for you guys, or I'll sing my part." And so, it was just probably one of the most surreal things in the world. Like I'm just riding around in this car and Meatloaf is singing to me, and it was one of the things I'm like, "How did I get here? What happened? How did this happen?" And it was pretty amazing and it definitely blew me away. It was pretty cool.

Adam Berry:
I think anytime we take a long road trip, like I think the longest one I've ever been on was we drove from South Dakota to the upper peninsula of Mackinac Islands. And, that was the craziest road trip. We had everything from blizzards to ice storms, to just pulling off the road and staying at random hotels because we cannot go any further. Yukon's are sliding everywhere. Getting to know each other I feel on a completely different level because we are with each other all the time. Those experiences we hold dear to our hearts. Also, anytime you pull up to gas station with three Yukons and TAPS van, everyone around knows the show and comes up and says hello. And I think that's actually kind of fun because we don't expect it. They don't expect it. And I think that's kind of something we cherish.

Amy Bruni:
I think on a Hawaii note, I have to say that one of the craziest experiences I think I've had on the show was when that tsunami was coming. And we were in the middle of an investigation, or we were getting ready to investigate, and just hearing about the earthquake that had already happened. Seeing the devastation, it was really hard to concentrate on work because we were in Hawaii, which obviously has a huge Japanese population. And they were very deeply affected as it was, and then to hear there was this tsunami coming and seeing the tsunamis that were happening.

And when you know people on the island were starting to get scared, we were getting scared. And the sirens were going off and we're thinking, what is going to happen? This is the closest I have ever been to a natural disaster really. Other than my family, I couldn't think of people I would feel more secure with than the team and our crew because we're so close. But it was definitely a crazy experience.

Adam Berry:
Yes. That was probably one of the scariest moments I've ever had on the show. Because the sirens are going off and your focus then turns to survival. Planning for the future. And thankfully we were spared. Waikiki was really the low key on all major accounts. So we were very lucky.

Question:
If you weren't doing ghost hunting, what do you think you would be doing?

Adam Berry:
Watching them on TV.

Amy Bruni:
I've always ghost hunted, so think even if I wasn't doing it on television I would definitely still would. But I will be probably as long as I can. I used to work in project management. I was a Project Manager for a health insurance company for like eight years. And I don't know that I would go back that, but I really am into event planning, so I have an event planning business, and so I'd probably just go back into event planning. And that's probably what I'll do when the show's over. Just ramp my business back up. Right now I do a lot of paranormal event planning, so I'd probably go from that back to weddings and all that. Corporate event type of things. Work for myself first and foremost.

Adam Berry:
Right. Amy's very good at event planning. Seriously, she can throw an event whether it's a small gathering, birthday party, or a large major event. In like a second, she'll throw it all together. So, she'll have no problems. Like Amy said, I'll be ghost hunting until I am a ghost. I don't think I'm ever going to stop. I love doing it. I went to school for musical theater, so I sing - like my hobby now is singing, so I ghost hunt and then I sing. So I'd probably do the cabaret circuit again, and I'd make Amy plan an event so I could sing at it, and we'll just work together.

Amy Bruni:
All together. It would be great.

Question:
You said event planning and you said about paranormal in that events. Then you talk about wedding. I'm guessing these aren't the same thing.

Amy Bruni:
No. No. You would be surprised at how planning a paranormal event is much the same as planning a wedding. Just everybody's running around frantically and there are divas all over the place. It is very much the same. An event is an event, so I definitely took that wedding expertise and applied it to - the wedding expertise and project management expertise I applied to paranormal events.

Adam Berry:
You can apply both to my wedding Amy.

Amy Bruni:
Okay. I will, of course.

Question:
Can you talk about working with Josh Gates?

Adam Berry:
I love Josh Gates. He was there for my birthday, and we were in Hawaii and we all went out and had a great time. And he's such an imaginative investigator if that makes any sense. He comes up with these crazy ideas, and his show is a completely different thing. I've only recently met him, so I met him at the live show. It was the first time ever meeting him, so I love it.

Amy Bruni:
Josh and I have worked together so many times now we've actually become pretty good friends over the years. And he is so hilarious. It's hard sometimes. Like when we were investigating in the hanger, there's this mannequin that supposedly moved. And so probably half the time Josh and I are throwing up Mannequin the movie trivia stumping Brett, because Brett's the only person on Earth who has not seen Mannequin. And we're singing the Mannequin song, and that's a day in the life of hanging out with Josh. But he's very professional and he's definitely into what he does. But, he's a character and he's a lot of fun. And, I'm always excited when he comes out with us.

Adam Berry:
Love it.

Question:
Adam, Amy was saying before that she's kind of the ghost counselor. What do you think you see as your role on the team right now?

Adam Berry:
I believe in Amy's style. I feel like she's a ghost magnet, and I know that lots of people have told her that. But the way that she approaches an investigation, she's very personable and things like that. And, I feel like that's something that I can relate to. And especially on Academy, I really tried to become a part of what whoever or whatever we were talking to in their reality if you will, and you know take on sort of a persona of you know who we're talking to and really try to connect in that way.

So, I feel like Amy and I work extremely well together because we each try to pinpoint what's going to get to the heart of whatever we're talking to in the way that you know, they're going to be free to talk to us. They're going to feel comfortable and safe. I did try to provoke a little bit when I first got on the show, and that is not Amy's style and she explained it to me in such a way that it really hit home and it's stayed with me since then. You wouldn't want to be that person on the other end being yelled at or told these crazy things because it would just make them very scared and not want to talk to you.

I think that is my role on the show. And I'm continuously learning - continually learning about the tech aspect and that I still pull my weight 150%. I'm like a worker bee. If I need it to be done, I'm there to do it. I never say no. I love doing it. It's become a really great passion for me, and it always has been. And I feel Amy and I really are on the same level when it comes to - well the same plane if you will when it comes to talking with the ghosties.

Question:
We're all looking forward to the Pearl Harbor episode definitely. But you know, the rest of the season, what would you say is a highlight for you that we're going to get to see?

Adam Berry:
Well, that full spectrum camera is going to not disappoint.

Amy Bruni:
I would have to say I think that this season people have been asking to see more of our residential cases and they're going to get it. We have been shooting a lot more of the residential cases, so a lot more of those will start airing. Season 1 and 2, there was a lot more background and more interaction. Not necessarily just the investigation. And I think they're getting back to that a little bit more. Just kind of showing more behind the scenes and our interactions and how we get along and all.

And, I think it's going to work out well just so people can see that we're not just these machines that walk in and do these investigations. That we all have personalities and how we all interact and get along, that we're like a big family. And so, I think that's going to be a change people will notice.

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