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Psych Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

This is an interview with James Roday and Dule Hill on November 8, 2010 about the show Psych.

Question:
What is it like to film in Vancouver, when the show is set in Vancouver?

James Roday:
Well it's easier.

Dule Hill:
Yes.

James Roday:
That's for sure. We spend a lot of time running around and covering up signs and replacing license plates and moving fake palm trees.

Dule Hill:
And flags, taking down flags.

James Roday:
And when we shot for actual Vancouver we didn't have to worry about any of that stuff which means we could allow our minds and the minds of some of our crew members to drift in a good way.

Dule Hill:
About Maple syrup.

James Roday:
That's right.

Dule Hill:
And you also don't have to frame out the ice capped mountains either. You can use that.

James Roday:
Oh, that's true. Good point, Dule.

Dule Hill:
See what I'm saying?

James Roday:
That's sharp thinking for this early in the morning. I'm very impressed.

Dule Hill:
That's how I do it in the morning, you know what I mean?

James Roday:
Yes, man. Like a farmer except you're not.

Question:
What can you tell me about the "Twin Peaks" inspired episode?

James Roday:
Well I can tell you that it is probably the most proud I have been of any of our achievements on the show, which as you know have been plentiful. It's me basically being a fan boy. "Twin Peaks" was my favorite show of all time. And, you know, to be able to work with seven of the original cast and basically pretend like I was in an episode of "Twin Peaks" was unbelievable.

In addition to that, and I think it's just something that Dule and the rest of the cast all got to enjoy as well, we discovered that several of the original cast members hadn't seen each other in 15 or even 20 years. So we were basically doing a "Twin Peaks" reunion within our "Twin Peaks" show. And watching them sort of reconnect and reminisce was pretty special as well. So it was sort of like two unbelievable experiences for the price of one.

Question:
What is the best thing about working with each other?

Dule Hill:
Well I would say from my side the best thing about working with Roday would be I guess the challenge of working outside the box. That would be it for me. I mean he's such a talented actor that his mind will go anywhere and sometimes keeping up and staying on the train is a challenge for me but I enjoy it. You know, it's a muscle that I haven't really used in previous parts of my careers. So I'm definitely enjoying the time right now.

James Roday:
That's it? That's all you've got?

Dule Hill:
Yes, that's all I've got man. That's it. That's all I got.

James Roday:
That's very nice actually. Thank you. Well I would say that in addition to, you know, the obvious which is that Dule is a very gifted actor as well and that he actually makes my job easier by keeping us on the tracks so that I can do all my crazy stuff. I mean that's sort of what makes the show work and that's why our chemistry has been so good from the beginning. It's sort of a - pieces just really fell into place nicely and we're very lucky.

But also he also says everything that we're both thinking that have nothing to do with acting whether it's weather-related or food-related or trailer-related or anything you can think of, you know, we're always thinking the same thing but then he always says is out loud and then I don't have to which is awesome.

Question:
You've done so many pop culture references on the show. If there was one pop culture reference that has not been done yet that you would love to do, what is it?

Dule Hill:
Yes. I'm not really a pop - I mean I'm on a show that's about pop culture references but that's not really my forte. I'm not really that big into it. Maybe something about Emmanuel Lewis.

James Roday:
Yes. You know, gosh, I think - I mean there's still so many areas that are deep and plentiful. I wonder if there's - if it's not time that we did like a - I don't know, like a major sort of Alf reference of some kind. I think he's probably due for some love.

Question:
James, you guys left us with one heck of a cliffhanger with Juliet and Shawn at the end of the season there. Are there any kind of details you can give us about what to expect with the two of them?

James Roday:
Well I can tell you that you're not going to have to wait for long. I guess we all sort of decided that we had made you wait long enough and it's addressed pretty cleanly and thoroughly in the premier on Wednesday. So if you can wait for two more days, then I think you'll have all of the answers that you seek.

Question:
Dule, any relationships on the horizon for Gus?

Dule Hill:
That's a good question. In terms of Season 5 I don't think so unless I'm blanking out on something Roday might think of.

Question:
So are you guys both happy with the course of the love life for your characters?

Dule Hill:
I mean I would say I think Gus is definitely kind of backed up. He could use a little bit of tender care, you know what I mean. But we'll see what happens going into the Season 6.

Question:
I know Cary Elwes is in the "Extradition" episode. Can you tell me about his upcoming appearance and what he's like on the set?

James Roday:
We had a lot of fund with Cary. I think we had more fun with him the second time than we did even the first time because he, you know, he was sort of comfortable in the skin of the character. And he sort of got of better idea of what our set is and that it was going to be all fun and games all the time. And he just came up to sort of goof around this second time. And we spent more time with him off set as well and met his beautiful wife and unbelievably beautiful little girl. And he's an all-around good guy and very funny in the episode.

Question:
In addition to Cary Elwes, what other guest stars can we look forward to seeing this season?

Dule Hill:
Well beyond the Twin Peakers which come up, we have Ralph Macchio. He'll come up - he'll be in one of the upcoming episodes. We have the return of Ally Sheedy. And then we find out who Mr. Yin is. And then we have Mena Suvari who comes up in that same episode. Who am I forgetting?

James Roday:
We have Tony Cox.

Dule Hill:
Oh, yes, Tony Cox came up. That's right.

James Roday:
Very funny. Keshia Knight Pulliam, a little Bud/Rudy symmetry there. And Jacob Vargas, very good actor.

Dule Hill:
That's right.

James Roday:
I think we had a shorter winter season. I think that's most of the highlights there.

Dule Hill:
And we have Aggie the Polar Bear.

James Roday:
Aggie the Polar Bear.

Dule Hill:
That's right.

Question:
Are there any characteristics of the roles you each play that you envy and that you wish you possessed?

Dule Hill:
I mean I think from my side I do wish I possessed a little more of the - I guess Gus knows a little bit of - he knows something about everything. Like he really has the most random trivia information stacked inside of his brain. And I think for myself I would love to be able to have that kind of information stored up inside my brain.

James Roday:
I think Shawn sort of represents that person that I don't know we may have all known or may not that, you know, we always say we wish we could be more like that person because they take so many risks and they sort of live life to its absolute fullest at any given moment and they jump without asking questions. It's a pretty remarkable quality that some people actually do have. But then we remember that it doesn't always work out in real life the way it works out on television and that that's probably why we're not like that.

Question:
What would be your ultimate dream adventure atmosphere?

Dule Hill:
Probably like, you know, in the amazon somewhere like down in South America going through the rain forest, something like that.

James Roday:
Yes. I'm not trying to mess with like insects that are bigger than my dogs.

Dule Hill:
Well that's what I was going to say, in my dream adventure, if it's my dream, then there is no insects there. It's just a nice paradise. You know, where the river is flowing and the sun shines through in spaces and it rains sometimes but not too much and there's definitely no bugs or anything like that. There's a nice queen-size bed or king-size bed I can sleep in. It's my dream adventure, you know what I mean.

James Roday:
I think I'm running around doing like high-end espionage stuff. Like a gentlemen, you know, like in Europe and then I'm also somehow I'm in Morocco and then I'm back in the States and then I'm in Russia and I've got all kinds of cool money like different kinds of money.

Dule Hill:
Kind of James Bond-ish.

James Roday:
Yes. But like less danger and more gentlemanly. Just enjoying the finer things of life with like a small mission on the side.

Question:
What's your favorite name that Shawn has called Gus?

Dule Hill:
For myself it's always been the one I think from Season 1, which may have been the first or second episode, where he called me Gus "Silly-Pants" Jackson. You know, I - because when he first threw that out it kind of caught me off guard first of all because I believe that was one that was just off the top of his head. And it cracked me up. I just thought it was a hilarious thing. And, you know, we're big fans of Stoney Jackson over here.

James Roday:
Yes, we are. That's the one that sort of kicked it all off. So I think it's always going to be special for us since everything sort of sprang from that.

Question:
Do you guys get a say in those or do they come already in the script?

James Roday:
Oh, sure. They definitely come in the script now but any time we can top what's there, we don't hesitate. Everyone's in on the fun now.

Question:
Are you having a Christmas-themed episode this year and if so, can you tell us anything about it?

James Roday:
Yes. We are returning to holiday Yule entertainment this season. I actually directed our Christmas episode and I can tell you that it's pretty out there. It's our sort of bizarro take on "It's a Wonderful Life." Shawn learns what everybody would be doing if he had never come back to Santa Barbara.

But it's - but prepare yourselves because it's not "It's a Wonderful Life." It's something different and the only thing I can guarantee is that you'll get to see the characters that you've grown to know and love in ways that you never thought you'd see them.

Question:
James, what would be something that Dule does not know about you? And Dule what would be something that James does not know about you?

James Roday:
Wow. You know, we've got to fill a lot of time over this - over these seven months that we spend together. Something that he definitely doesn't know about me. Well our first season in Vancouver Dule was kind enough to let me tag along to a benefit that Diana Krall was having wherein I ended up getting to meet President Clinton which was certainly a highlight for me. Dule had already known President Clinton and played basketball with him and things like that, so less of a novelty there. But what Dule might not know is that I met President Jimmy Carter when I was a very young boy and that it was actually the second time I had met a president. I don't think I have ever told him that.

Dule Hill:
That's something I didn't know.

James Roday:
Boom.

Dule Hill:
Let's see. Well James probably doesn't know being that he's a native of San Antonio that I actually shot a basketball on the court of the San Antonio Spurs arena wherever they play down there.

James Roday:
Look at that. After all these years we still surprise each other.

Question:
If USA was going to have a Best of ???Psych' Week, what would be the episodes that you'd want to make sure that they had on there?

Dule Hill:
There's so many of them. There's so many of them. So if there was just going to be one a day I don't think that would be enough. One of my favorites has always been American Duos because, you know, just the fact of us being able to sing "Shout" and dress up like Roland Orzabal and Michael Jackson and, you know, Tim Curry and the guest stars we had there were just, you know, knocking it out of the park. I've always loved that episode.

James Roday:
Yes. I think I go back to Season 2 which was also - that was the same season of American Duos where we did our Spanish telenovela episode where we infiltrated a Spanish soap opera. It's some of the most ridiculous stuff we've ever done on the show. And I remember it fondly. I remember speaking two languages, looking ridiculous and probably the most fun I've ever had on set.

Question:
The "will they, won't they" thing has been always such a part of the show and if you guys are actually going there now with Juliet, was there like just oodles of hours of discussion as to which way that should go or was it just the time to do it?

James Roday:
I think there's always been plenty of discussion. But I think, you know, first on the list is when is the time to do it. So I think those things sort of came to a head and everybody was on the same page that five years of "will they or won't they" was enough and that it was time to throw a curve ball and mix things up, cross our fingers and hope for the best.

Question:
Is there any chance a WWE event is going to be revisited this year?

James Roday:
You know what, I think we missed our window for the winter premier since it's on Wednesday. And I would have to be wherever they are tonight. But I'm certainly game to sort of do my part now that Dule has so dutifully done his and maybe return for the Season 6 premier or something. I would absolutely be down for that, yes.

Dule Hill:
Don't worry. I'll be making some phone calls to try to make that happen and to remind everybody. I think it's time for Roday to get slapped.

Question:
Are you ready to do it again, Dule?

Dule Hill:
No, no, no, this will be Roday on his own. Alicia Fox will be slapping James Roday this time.

Question:
That was a good slap.

Dule Hill:
Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

Question:
I was going to see if you could tease some of the upcoming episodes and maybe tell us a storyline you haven't come to yet that you'd want to maybe like zombies or something.

Dule Hill:
We have "Police Academy."

James Roday:
Well, let's see. Upcoming episodes first. We've spoken about" Extradition." We've spoken about "Twin Peaks." We've spoken about Christmas. We do have a "Police Academy" episode which features Ralph Macchio who we mentioned. Shawn and Gus have to save a polar bear that may or may not be being framed for murder. We have an episode in a haunted house in an amusement park.

Dule Hill:
Right.

James Roday:
Probably the closest we will ever come to embodying the cast of "Scooby-Doo." And then we do - we bring home the Yin-Yang Trilogy. That will be our finale where everything comes out in the wash. Pretty packed, pretty solid winter. As far as - I mean I can tease - I can actually tease that at some point next season we'll be doing vampires.

Dule Hill:
I have a feeling Gus will have a chance to say, "Oh, Sookie."

James Roday:
Yes. We can probably work that in there. We've been talking about a musical forever. That's up on the board. Baseball has been on the board for awhile. I think it's probably time to make that happen as well.

Question:
Any chance Larisa Oleynik's character from the werewolf episode could come back in the vampire episode?

James Roday:
Ah, no. We dug Larisa. That was a lot of fun. She had a fun character. She got to wear a nose ring. Not that many people who come on site can say that. But yes, I guess it could possibly work since they're all into the occult and whatnot we could bring back Josh Malina too.

Dule Hill:
That's right.

Question:
What do you think makes Shawn and Gus' relationship work so well since they are such polar opposites?

Dule Hill:
I think you just answered it right there. I think they fill each other out. They both bring each other to the center. You know, one is extremely to the right and one is extremely to the left and they balance each other out. I think without their relationship they would both be too far in either direction. I think Shawn would be doing something - I mean Shawn his life would be a long time ago spin out of control and Gus would be a hermit going to work, going home.

Question:
If Shawn and Gus could go on a reality show, separately or together, what show do you think they would be cast on?

Dule Hill:
"Amazing Race."

James Roday:
Oh, yes. Absolutely. And they would win.

Dule Hill:
Yes, they would.

James Roday:
They would win.

Question:
No "Bachelor" for Gus and giving out pineapples instead of roses?

Dule Hill:
I mean sure that's a possibility. Sure. But I mean the first show would definitely be "The Amazing Race." But if ever a character every deserved to go and be the bachelor, I think it's Gus though.

Dule Hill:
It would be Gus, right.

Question:
How do you think your relationship with Lassiter is going to change now that they are working together more and he sees how well Shawn is working - helping solve the Yin case and stuff like that?

James Roday:
You know what, he's watched us solve, what, 80 murders. He hasn't softened up to us yet. Something tells me he's never quite going to.

Dule Hill:
I think with Lassiter it's less about - for him the issue is not about the outcome it's more about the process. He doesn't respect our process.

Question:
Now what character, dead or alive, would you like to bring back?

James Roday:
Well kick it off from Season 1, I think I'd love to bring back Adam Hornstock, Esq., a character played by Michael Weston. There's bound to be a way that Shawn and Gus need legal advice. So I think that's pretty easy to do.

Dule Hill:
And I wouldn't mind bringing back - I forgot his actual name on the show Malcolm from...

James Roday:
Oh, Wally.

Dule Hill:
Yes. Wally. Wally from the "Pimp My Ride" episode because I just enjoyed doing the scenes with him where he was just talking in circles. He wasn't really making any kind of sense. That would be someone I would like to see come back.

Question:
How about Jimmi Simpson?

Dule Hill:
Well Jimmi Simpson.

James Roday:
Well you'll get another dose of Jimmi this season. I'll let you try and figure out how we pulled that off but we did. So don't miss the finale.

Question:
What would you like to see Shawn and Gus do more of?

Dule Hill:
I would like to see Gus obviously release some tension. Honestly, I would say I wouldn't mind seeing Gus do a little bit more dating, you know, but expanding his horizon outside the Psych office.

James Roday:
I would say I'd like to see Shawn and Gus use their wits like at a three-to-one ratio over their legs.

Question:
Psych is filled with ???80s references, so if you could change things up and switch to another decade for a season, which one would you choose and give me some examples of what the episode would cover.

Dule Hill:
I would say the ???70s and probably have something - you know, some references dealing with Melvin Van Peebles, something having to do with "Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song."

James Roday:
I second that.

Question:
How is Shawn and Juliet's relationship going to affect Gus and Shawn's relationship?

James Roday:
Well we deal with it right away and I think Shawn probably didn't give Gus nearly enough credit for knowing that eventually something of that nature was probably going to happen. So it's possible that Shawn sort of built it up in his head that it's going to be a way bigger deal than it is. Although, I don't know. I can't really remember. Do you remember, Dule?

Dule Hill:
Yes, I mean I remember how it affects our relationship.

James Roday:
Yes. There's not like a - there's no major fallout.

Dule Hill:
Yes. I don't think there will be a major fallout (at least). We'll see what happens going into Season 6 but Season 5, I don't think you see any major fallout. It's something that I think Gus has prepared himself for for awhile. I mean at some point he knew that Shawn and Juliet were going to get together.

Question:
Now since we had to wait five years for them to kiss, how long do we have to wait until they actually go all the way?

James Roday:
Well considering that we have been tagged as a family show and are constantly being reminded that key members of our executive team's children watch our show religiously, I'm going to say that any all-the-wayness that happens will happen very discreetly and off-screen.

Question:
But are we to assume that it happens this season?

James Roday:
I guess so, yes. I mean talking about two grown adults, so yes that's probably fair to say.

Question:
About the "Twin Peaks" episode, does David Lynch know you're doing it? Have you tried to contact him?

Dule Hill:
He does know we're doing it.

James Roday:
My understanding and I'm obviously both titillated and nervous about this is that he is aware of the episode. His dear friend Catherine Coulson, aka "The Log Lady", came up and did the episode and called and left him a message while she was sitting on our set. So I'm pretty sure that he's aware and I can only hope that we did him proud. I feel like we did. You know, our whole hearts went into that episode and we had the support of, you know, about half of his cast. So if he doesn't like it, there's going to a lot of people in trouble.

Question:
About "Twin Peaks" since Shawn and Gus are so into food, will you be enjoying some cherry pie?

James Roday:
We definitely enjoy pie.

Dule Hill:
Pie, yes.

James Roday:
But we made it our own and it's not actually cherry.

Question:
How does Shawn's dad feel about Shawn and Juliet getting together now that he's working at the police station, and how does Shawn and his father's relationship progress this season?

James Roday:
If memory serves, I'm not sure if he ever - I'm not sure he ever wizens up to Shawn and Juliet. I don't think...

Dule Hill:
I don't think he does.

James Roday:
I don't think he does. I think that's, you know, it's - we're sort of proceeding with great caution on that front. And then as far as our relationship, I will admit I was - I didn't know how the whole moving him to the police station was going to work but I actually think it worked pretty well because it kind of renewed that antagonism that we had from seasons past where Shawn was always having to look over his shoulder and nothing's ever good enough and I think it motivates both of them.

And it's an energy that I thought, you know, always served the show very well and that we got away from sort of in the middle seasons. And I thought it was good to have it back. You know, those two guys are never going to be on the same page but they do find strange twisted ways of appreciating one another. And I think we get to see more of that with Henry in the police station than we did with him, you know, out on his boat or making sandwiches in the kitchen.

Question:
If Shawn wrote a book what would it be called and what would it be about?

James Roday:
I think it would be his memoirs starting from the time he left Santa Barbara probably and then taking it up to the present and it would be called I've Heard it Both Ways.

Question:
For Dule, what is Gus's favorite pharmaceutical product?

Dule Hill:
Oh, wow.

James Roday:
Take your time with this, Dule. Don't just rush out an answer.

Dule Hill:
Wow. What is Gus's favorite pharmaceutical product. Now if I could pronounce any one of these pharmaceutical products that I've had to say in the past five years, I would be able to tell you but maybe...

James Roday:
Well we know it's not Viagra or Cialis because he doesn't have any use for that.

Dule Hill:
Yes, it's definitely not Viagra or Cialis. I think it's probably maybe like - well I guess that's not really a pharmaceutical product either but something having to do with, you know, maybe some type of a Rogaine type thing, something have to do with balding because he thinks there's a lot of balding people in the world. You know, I don't know. That's a good question though. The funny thing about all those pharmaceutical products that I say, I have no idea what they are.

Question:
We've talked about the guest stars that you've had and sort of like your favorites. Do you have a wish list of people you'd like to see on the show?

Dule Hill:
I would say I'd love to have Chris Tucker come and do a quick spot. I don't know if he ever would but I mean, you know, he's just hilarious to me and it would be great to have him come swing through the show one time. I doubt it will ever happen but, you know, you can always dream.

James Roday:
I've been saying David Bowie since the first season so I'll stick with that until he actually shows up which again may never happen. But it doesn't cost us anything to hope, you know what I mean. Hope doesn't cost like money. Hope is free and it springs eternal. It's actually Dule who taught me that.

Question:
You guys just finished up the college tour. Did you have a favorite campus that you visited.

Dule Hill:
I had a blast at each and every one of them. I mean I would say for myself each one that I went to I mean was the best one. I really enjoyed University of Georgia and then when I got to Boston I was like, "Oh, this is cool." And then I got to University of Texas at Austin I thought that was even better. And then of course closing it out in Santa Barbara. So I mean I don't want pick either one but I think they were all pretty good to me.

James Roday:
Yes. The kids were great. I mean the bottom line is that we just got to hang out with a bunch of really, really cool kids, smart kids, bright kids, respectful. It was just a big love-fest and they made us feel so welcome. And it was - we were pretty tired so the fact that we were able to kind of get up for all these is really a testament to how cool each stop was. I mean Texas is my home state so I should probably say that if someone pointed a gun at me I would say the University of Texas which maybe Dule would do too if we had gone to Rutgers. I don't know.

Dule Hill:
Yes, yes if we had gone to Rutgers, then yes. You know, being that I'm a Jersey boy.

Question:
Do you guys believe in psychics?

James Roday:
Sure, I believe in psychics. I don't believe in all of them. I think some of them are full of it just like Shawn. But I think there's enough weird stuff out there and unexplainable things that there's bound to be some people that have senses that most of us don't have.

Dule Hill:
I think there's more Shawn Spencers and less Notradamuses. But either way I'm like don't tell me. Let me be surprised.

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