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Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

This is an interview from December 2, 2010 with Eddie McClintock and Saul Rubinek from Warehouse 13 about the holiday episode. In that episode, Claudia goes to persuade Artie's father to come back with her to see Artie. She has to think a little outside the box and tells him his son is dying. Fearing the worst and with Claudia saying she's omitting more information forces Artie's dad to join her. Meanwhile, Artie is off to tell Pete and Myka to cancel their trips because they have a new case in search of a familiar face around the holidays. Will it stop them from their own get-aways?

Waehouse 13

Question:
What are some of your typical holiday traditions?

Eddie McClintock:
Well, my favorite holiday tradition would be having to pick my mom off the kitchen floor and put her into a cold shower, after she had had too much cooking sherry. But other than that, I have two sons now and they're just starting to really enjoy Christmas and the holidays and we try and make sure to put out some cookies and milk for Santa and make sure that they have lots of toys under the tree as it were.

Question:
Eddie you're an active participant on Twitter. Why are social networking sites like Twitter important to promotion of special holiday episodes like Warehouse 13's and new projects that you're working on like Boogeyman?

Eddie McClintock:
Well I think just the climate of the entertainment industry has changed with the introduction of these social networking sites and the fact that a lot of magazines have folded because of the economy. So the use of a publicist maybe isn't necessarily as prominent as it used to be so getting out there and kind of being able to talk to the fans and let them hear from me personally is a cool new thing and I have a good time, it keeps me busy and it's just fun to have that instant feedback that you get from Twitter.

And I think it's important because for instance I have some friends who have a million, I have like three or four friends who have about a million followers on their Twitter account and I told them before the premiere of Warehouse 13 I asked them if they would do like a blast to all their followers. So before the premiere this year I had direct blast to about 3.5 million listeners who already follow the things these people say to begin with. I think that has, there's a lot of power there, marketing power, so I think it's a good thing.

Question:
Saul, can you tell us why people keep tuning in to watch Warehouse 13?

Saul Rubinek:
Because of Eddie's Twitter probably.

Eddie McClintock:
Nice.

Saul Rubinek:
It's really interesting. Last year I crossed the country with my son, we were moving from one coast to the other and I was kind of used to people recognizing me from either Unforgiven or Family Man or Frazier or something like that but it was so, it was very often, more often than Warehouse 13. And what was unusual is I used to be able to pick out people who were recognizing me from what show, my kids and I used to play a game where that was a Frazier fan, that's definitely a Star Trek fan, that's a True Romance fan because of the tattoos.

But with Warehouse 13 it's impossible to tell because we've all discussed this, but quite often people are watching this with their families, which makes all of us really proud. I mean it's a 9:00 show, it's really appropriate for kids ten years old and up, and it's violence is kept at a minimum. And it's the kind of show because of the humor and because of the adventure fantasy that seems to work, thank god, for the whole family so that nobody feels either talked down to or talked up to and I think it's the secret of its success is that. Now why that is because there are a lot of smart people and producing it and writing it and they're brilliant in their choice of actors, just brilliant.

We have a great time and I think it's kind of contagious, you can tell I think that we all have a good time doing the show. We really enjoy it; we really look forward to every day of shooting we have a great time. We have a wonderful and imaginative show runner Jack Kenny who keeps things humorous and allows for collaboration and we're very lucky, we're very fortunate and some of that I think transmits through the airways to the people and people tell each other.

And that's what's going on. I think another reason is because not one episode is really formulaic and you can't really tell what the next step what's it's going to be like other than the fact that we're tracking down artifacts, you can have quite a dark episode, you can have a really light one, there isn't a formula and I think that that is attracting fans as well, so I mean those are my guesses.

Question:
Can you talk about the Christmas episode and what was your favorite part filming it?

Saul Rubinek:
Go ahead Eddie.

Eddie McClintock:
I think the Christmas episode is it's right in line with what we've always tried to do with the Warehouse 13 episodes. They're a lot of fun and there's some tense moments but again at its heart it's a nice family show about this family of people that have come together at this strange warehouse out in South Dakota and I think it just stays true to the series and it's fun. And Paul Blackthorne who is our guest star does an amazing job and I guess my favorite part was when the nutcracker...

Saul Rubinek:
I could've told you that that was his favorite part just because he gets to say the word nutcracker.

Eddie McClintock:
And I get to say nuts.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. I could've told you that. I have three favorite things that happened to me.

Eddie McClintock:
That's news.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah you've talked long enough. I have three favorite things. One is that I got to work with Judd Hirsch who I'd never met but had been such a fan of for so many years and we'd never even meet before, and that was a huge thrill, he's a wonderful performer, great actor and was just a pleasure to have him on the show, and they had to age him up a little bit to make him old enough to be my dad, but that was a joy.

And the second thing was that for the first time Jack Kenny, our head writer and show runner directed an episode and he was wonderful to work with and it was great to have him as the director of the show, and he wrote the script as well, so that was a pleasure, a real pleasure.

And then I got to perform this little nocturne, or at least part of it, that I had been writing myself on the piano, which took the place of the nocturne that Artie has been working on for years that his father is so happy that he finished it. So I got to do that, so those were three great things for me.

Question:
What do you two think would be what your characters would most want for the holidays?

Eddie McClintock:
Pete would like to get all of his CD collection back because apparently it was lost in the mail from Washington, D.C. to South Dakota. He's kind of stuck out there at Leena's with no tunes, because Leena has Justin Bieber and she plays the same CD all day.

Saul Rubinek:
That's funny.

Eddie McClintock:
I know.

Saul Rubinek:
I think it actually happens for Artie. I think Artie is kind of like a Christmas and Hanukkah grump and he's kind of not really into all of that stuff and really would prefer it all to go away, and partly because it would remind him of the family that he doesn't have and he's reminded that he does already have a family, which are these people, in fact we're all reminded of that in this episode.

And Artie's life has been so solitary and so removed from ordinary family life and he has to deal with so many dark things that holiday season for many people around the world brings up what they don't have and what they can't have, and that's certainly true for Artie and it's brought home to him in a very real way by having his estranged father as part of the episode.

Question:
Are there going to be any new or special artifacts in this episode?

Saul Rubinek:
There always are, right. There always are and so yes absolutely there are, there is stuff that we can't talk about on pain of death but that's one of the joys of the show is that they throw in stuff more than one usually. But in this case in our show I think it's just one, right Eddie, it's just one artifact. I think as far as I remember.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah it's just the one. It's unusual, usually they throw in a bunch but it's a special Christmas artifact that's all we can tell you.

Question:
Saul, about Barney's Version. How did you get involved with that project?

Saul Rubinek:
Well I've been involved with the project before. There was a four-part radio version of it done by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation where I had played Barney and I've known the director Richard Lewis and the producer Robert Lantos for many years and also I had worked with Mordecai Richler, the novelist, way back 30 years ago I had done not one but two different projects that were based on his short stories. And it was really nice. As you know now from the movie, I can't talk too much about who the character is without giving away something crucial that Barney doesn't know about.

But it was only you know one great scene, I had to go to Rome to shoot it so that was kind of fun and just me and Paul Giamatti and it was really great. That's how I got involved there was, also because I'm Canadian originally and it's a Canadian film.

Question:
Did you work at all with Dustin Hoffman or Minnie Driver or the rest of the cast?

Saul Rubinek:
No. I worked with Dustin before though because I directed a movie called Club Land with Steven Weber and Alan Alda that was written by Steven Weber that was produced by Dustin, so that was about ten years ago. Yeah.

Question:
What can you guys tell us about this bad Santa that we've all heard about from the episode?

Eddie McClintock:
You don't want to mess with him because he will kick some A-S-S. And I have to spell that out because my five-year-old's right here.

Saul Rubinek:
You know there's a great cartoon that, the great cartoonist Gahan Wilson his stuff is quite often in the New Yorker, I don't know if you know his cartoon. And there's one I remember from years ago is there's a little boy with his covers up with his eyes huge with terror and the door is cracked open and a very angry looking Santa is looking daggers at him and the caption underneath is ???I hear you've been a naughty boy this year Jimmy.??? And it's that kind of terror that this bad Santa brings.

Question:
When you guys first heard that they were doing a holiday episode was there excitement about it or was there maybe a little bit fear?

Saul Rubinek:
We were kind of excited about it, we were excited right away that we were doing a Christmas episode. In fact, yeah we were looking forward to it.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah I think it's great because it kind of reminds people that we are there and it kind of fills in the gap for fans who are bummed that we don't come on, but every summer it's a long time to wait so it's a nice little gift.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah and then the idea got stolen right. A good friend of mine Tim Hutton is starring in Leverage and I had done the pilot of Leverage and Tim Hutton had asked me what we were doing this season last, before we started and I said we're doing 12 plus one, and he said what do you mean 12 plus one. I said we're doing 12 and then a Christmas episode. And he said what a good idea. The next thing I know Leverage is doing a Christmas episode so.

Question:
What would be a bad Santa version of Pete?

Eddie McClintock:
Like kind of James Brown meets Carrot Top. Just think, think James Brown with not as many dance moves and bright orange hair.

Question:
Eddie, you know you're addicted to Twitter when you're in the middle of a conference call and you're still tweeting.

Eddie McClintock:
You know I'm an addict baby.

Saul Rubinek:
Is that what you're doing Eddie; you're tweeting as you talk?

Eddie McClintock:
I've been trying to tweet you back here but the Internet is actually like two guys out on a bicycle.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. The famous Bulgarian Internet.

Eddie McClintock:
Two guys out on a bicycle and they're causing friction to make electricity so it's kind of, it's taking a little while here.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah by the way they take it very kindly out there in Bulgaria when they hear you making fun of their country, you should, you'll have a really good time at the service tomorrow.

Eddie McClintock:
I'm not making fun, there are actually two guys, hey guys go a little faster. I'm telling you they're out there. I just threw them a couple sandwiches.

Question:
At the end of the last episode Myka left, obviously she'll be back, the show wouldn't be the same without her. I'm assuming she'll be back for the holiday episode. Is that a correct assumption?

Saul Rubinek:
No. The holiday episode is a stand alone, this Christmas episode; this Christmas/Hanukkah episode is really called the long lost episode in a way. It's a stand alone episode that has nothing to do with any of the other story arcs.

Saul Rubinek:
So her leaving is still in play. Yeah.

Question:
Can you guys tell us where your love lives are going in the near future?

Saul Rubinek:
Well I mean if Eddie's character and Allison's character have anything to do with it they would like to have Artie hook up And so he would but he's very reluctant, and people get stuck in their ways when they get older and if he hasn't had it already he would be very nervous about it.

We definitely, or I know that we're going to have Lindsay Wagner back, and it's a wonderful character that she and the writers have created and it's a very interesting little dance that's going on between Artie and her and that Pete is trying to encourage. One of my favorite episodes of last season was this, when Eddie and I got to work with each other, actually the truth is that whenever Eddie and I get to work with each other now we have a blast. We don't do it that often, very often you know he's with Myka and I'm with Allison which have their own joys for us but when we have gotten together in episodes and we do have byplay we really have a blast, so that's some of the favorite stuff we've done.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah I mean for me watching Saul and getting to see Lindsay Wagner and Saul work together for me was just, two such great pros and I just sat, you know if you remember the scene up in the loft where Lindsay's character is inadvertently tickling Saul, or Artie and it was just so great.

I mean it was funny and it was kind of one of those surreal moments for me as an actor, who by all rights should be probably digging a ditch in Ohio somewhere that I can sit back and watch two pros finesse a scene and I always try and learn from stuff like that. So I would love to see Lindsay come back and have an opportunity to participate in some more of those scenes.

Question:
How are you each most like your characters?

Saul Rubinek:
It's an interesting question. When you're doing a television show or a movie and spend a lot of time going into a movie as you know for a few days or a few weeks sometimes I've been the lead but more often than not I've been a supporting actor and you create characters that are only meant to last for, and given a quick impression. When you're playing a lead in a television series as the four of us are, we really have to rely on our own personalities a lot and the writers start to write for us.

So we aren't a lot different from the characters that we're playing you know I mean there are aspects of ourselves that may not you know, come to the fore and I'm certainly a family man, I've been married 20 years, I have two kids and I didn't do what Artie did which was sacrifice his entire life for his work and for some greater cause like that, in that way I'm completely different. But when you're doing a show week after week you can't really put your character in quotation marks, you're using yourself at all times and I'm pretty sure Eddie's going to agree with me.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah I mean like Saul said when you're doing the same, playing the same character for such an extended period of time it just feels like to me if I try and be anything other than just kind of who I am the audience is going to catch me in a lie, so I just try and just kind of be, there's more of me in Pete than I would care to admit I guess because. Yeah.

Saul Rubinek:
Or that we can tolerate frankly.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah. Yes. So I mean I just basically show up and just hang out with my friends, that's basically what it's about.

Saul Rubinek:
That's the issue with what happens on any television series and all the actors that I know who are on long term television series say the same thing. If you really got to play some very eccentric, quirky character week after week that has nothing to do with you you're going to have a problem, the audience will start to feel that the character is false. You really have got to find a way, the writers, the producers, the network, everybody's got to be behind them creating a character that suits you once you've been cast, or they've got to fire you and find somebody else that suits the role better, you know.

And in this case pretty much what you're seeing is who we are. We obviously didn't choose to work for the FBI or the Secret Service, we chose a different line of life, a line of work. But our personalities are very similar, maybe with the exception of CCH Pounder who's kind of goofy and funny and not nearly as serious as she shows herself to be.

Eddie McClintock:
I would say that she has the biggest contrast in regards to who she is.

Saul Rubinek:
Yes.

Question:
What is your favorite holiday memory?

Saul Rubinek:
Wow. My holiday memories, well I grew up with Hanukkah and married a woman who grew up with Christmas and my kids have both with great exuberance for, my daughter's 19 and my son is 15 and we celebrate everything. We love holidays and my wife Eleanor has been a huge fan of that. We love ritual, those rituals. We love comfort food and favorite holiday foods. We're going to have a Hanukkah party next week with Latkes, those potato pancakes and dreidel playing and we're going to have, we love...

Eddie McClintock:
The guy from Taxi?

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah right. And we're going to do Christmas as well. We love all of it. So I don't know if it's a favorite one thing but it's certainly those ceremonies including Passover, Christmas, all of those things are really important to our family, so those are special times for us.

Eddie McClintock:
For me, I remember waking up as a kid one morning and going downstairs and my parents had gotten me the Guns of Navarone army man kit, like the army man set. It came with a big, giant plastic mountain with the Guns of Navarone in there and the Germans and the American like commandos and it came with tiny little barbed, like plastic barbed wire and there were tanks and stuff so.

Saul Rubinek:
Wow.

Question:
Who is your dream guest star. I know Allison wants Betty White, but who do you guys want?

Saul Rubinek:
Oh for favorite guest stars. Well I want my friend Brent Spiner to come do the show and I'm hoping that they create a character that he wants to do. I worked with him probably 25 years ago doing second season of Star Trek the Next Generation in a great, great episode and we had done theater together in New York years before that too. So I would love to have Brent, who's kind of a Syfy icon, and a great guy and a wonderful actor on the show.

Eddie McClintock:
Bruce Campbell. Yeah. I'd like to see how his chin and my chin cohabitate. See if our chins could fit in the same frame.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. That's not likely. And also a really boring reason to have an actor on a show, but there you go, that's our Eddie.

Eddie McClintock:
Me. There you go. Yeah I've been drinking.

Saul Rubinek:
Drinking the beer in Bulgaria, well he's in Bulgaria what can you do, you know.

Eddie McClintock:
I'm drinking potato vodka.

Saul Rubinek:
He's not. No he's kidding.

Eddie McClintock:
My wife is just sitting across the room looking at me just shaking her head.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. So we're all shaking our heads.

Question:
Syfy has a little promo on their Web site where Claudia goes to talk about father into coming to see him because she said that he's dying and there's a young guy with her. What's that?

Saul Rubinek:
Her brother. Yeah there was an episode when he was introduced when Claudia's character was first introduced, it was the fourth episode of the first season. That was the guy that was in limbo that she kidnapped Artie to in revenge. So it's her brother who worked at CERN and eventually you know, left CERN and he's become a kind of recurring character.

Question:
Are we going to get to see Kate Logan come back?

Saul Rubinek:
What do you think Eddie?

Eddie McClintock:
I would say the chances of Kate Logan coming back are almost definite. You know Tia was so great to have around and she, I know she is interested in coming back, I think she had a good time on the show and I think we would all love to see her come back because she's just a joy to be around for me.

Saul Rubinek:
We've created, or at least the writers/producers have created a kind of a rep company of wonderful actors including the people we've talked about and Lindsay and Rene Auberjonois and wonderful actors. MpEddie McClintock:
Apparently Johnny Depp has expressed some interest.

Question:
We've talked about the holidays, what about New Years? Do you guys have any New Years resolutions that you're thinking about?

Saul Rubinek:
Resolutions. Oh my god. I'm trying not to make them anymore. All they do is depress me. I'm going to lose weight, I'm going to lose weight. Artie's going to lose weight but I didn't say how much weight, could be ounces.

Eddie McClintock:
I'm going to try and be nicer to Saul.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. This is not time, you know. Do you actually ever have a New Years resolution, do you ever do that Eddie?

Eddie McClintock:
Not really no.

Saul Rubinek:
See I told you, I knew I'd get the truth out of him, not really. There you go.

Question:
Is there going to be any mistletoe, for Pete and Myka and anyone else?

Saul Rubinek:

Saul Rubinek:
I forgot, you asked if we had any special artifacts and there are quite a few actually. Now that I remember there are quite a few being used, there's one really special artifact, Christmas artifact and then there are quite a few others of which maybe mistletoe is one. There you go.

Eddie McClintock:
Warehouse 13 explores a little guy on guy.

Saul Rubinek:
Eddie, Eddie, Eddie.

Eddie McClintock:
Come on. Come on Saul.

Saul Rubinek:
Oh man. And he's actually got a script that he's willing to give you I'm sure. All you have to do is ask him, he'll tweet the whole script.

Question:
Eddie are you going to be back in the states in time for the holidays with your family or are you going to be just stuck out there in Bulgaria?

Eddie McClintock:
Well let me just restate for the record that I'm having a great time here in Bulgaria doing this, I'm doing a movie for Syfy but I will be back on the 19th. We come back and then we're going to jump in the car and drive six hours to Scottsdale after our 17-hour flight from Bulgaria. So yeah.

Saul Rubinek:
Well planned.

Eddie McClintock:
Yes. Lots of traveling.

Question:
Where do you think Season Three might be going?

Saul Rubinek:
You know we, go ahead.

Eddie McClintock:
Go ahead.

Saul Rubinek:
We've been told some stuff so I can't tell you. If I haven't been told anything I could've started guessing. Now I feel if I pretend to guess stuff I'm going to lead you away from what I actually know is going to happen and we're not.

I know some of the stuff that's going to happen, they don't tell you that stuff because of your addiction to tweeting so we keep a lot of things from you Eddie, a lot of things. So I can't tell you actually and because then Eddie would know and then if Eddie knows the world will know.

Eddie McClintock:
My best friend used to call me the town crier.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah and all the rest, yes he cries and the rest of us weep. Here's what's really going on is that they're going to have to deal one way or another with the fact that Myka has left the warehouse and try to figure out what to do about that so obviously that's going to be dealt with.

And the other thing is you've got a show that people like, the audiences have liked it, it's a hit show for them, they're going to continue doing what they've been doing, but that said you know we've had unpredictable shows. We've had two unpredictable seasons. We've had villains who are not painted with just one color. They've been wonderful, Jaime Murray and Roger Rees have played multi-faceted characters, great actors and the writing has matched their inclusion in the show.

So giving them a lot to work with and I suspect that that's going to be something that will continue, giving an audience the unexpected and continuing that family feeling that we've got on the show and that people care about us. As far as the particular adventures are concerned and what the arcs are they're, that's going to be stuff that's going to be revealed probably starting with the first episode you'll start to get a feel for where that's going to go.

And we love the fact that our fans guess and make, look we like the fact that our fans are critical as well. If they're involved in the show and there are things that they don't like they talk to each other. A lot of people read what they like and what they don't like and it's a new universe, as Eddie said a few interviews ago. It's a brand new universe. We have an interactive television audience that's never existed this way before.

I mean it's really by leaps and bounds so it's going to be a new media. I just read for example there was some kind of press release recently that said there was going to be a comic book of Warehouse 13.

I'm hoping that eventually there'll be a really good game, that there'll be webisodes dealing not necessarily even with our characters, that the universe of this show can expand on a lot of levels because it's 3,000 years old this warehouse and been doing things for a long time. A lot of great stories can be told in different ways so I think that the modern term for this is called transmedia. So it's not just social networking sites, it's gaming sites, it's comic books, it's webisodes, it's shows, it's documentaries about the show, it's the reality shows that are based on the fact. There is a kind of reality show already that Syfy is doing that has to do with artifacts. And I think that the people at Syfy and at NBC Universal are thinking along those lines. And the fans, Eddie and I have been, Eddie had been to a few more conventions than I have but I've been to two or three and I'm amazed by how bright, how involved the fans are and they can tell in a way that they never have before in any other decade how interactive and how important their contribution, what they think gets listened to.

Question:
Judd Hirsch joins you for the Christmas episode, and he's obviously a very important person in Artie's life. During the show we see he sort of tends to shy away from any personal relationships, he's quite secretive. So was it really exciting for you to get to explore a relationship with a family member?

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. It was a long lost relationship, I mean over 25 years of estrangement for both the bitterness on both sides and the show deals with a little bit of that, it doesn't explore it too deeply but it puts them together in a way that they would neither of them have expected. Artie shies away from personal relationships, people that he's hired to be agents like Pete and Myka have been killed or disappeared or been in limbo or god knows what kind of places they've gone to if they haven't taken things seriously enough. And the dangers of working in a place like that are mammoth and as a result he's afraid of losing people, somebody who hasn't got a partner and doesn't have children and doesn't even have a, a cat or a dog. He's learned to isolate himself for three decades or more.

Saul Rubinek:
And a personal relationship is just fraught with the possibility of loss, abandonment and death. Those are very dark things to live with when you have the responsibility that he has. And that's what's most fun about the character for me to play with is that there's a line of madness that deals with that kind of isolation, that kind of monomania, that kind of obsessiveness that's really fun to bring out just in parts.

We're not doing a show like Fringe, as good as Fringe is, we're not doing a really dark show where those qualities would come out so much, it's what allows Eddie as Eddie's really a wonderfully, spontaneous performer and really, and because if he does do that he has that kind of wonderful ability to throw himself humorously into situations no matter what's going on.

It encourages that side of the show and so for all of us actually that's a really, really good thing I would say led by Eddie. And it's encouraged by the writing and by all aspects of the show. That said there's I think Artie represents a darker side to that. But then there's, as you can see from the show, Eddie has been really great when some of the darker stuff has played. He's had two or three episodes in two years where really dark sides of his character have come out and it's been some of his best work and I know he's really proud of it and deservedly.

Eddie McClintock:
Thank you.

Saul Rubinek:
And Artie has very like moments so we're a little unpredictable and I think there'll be more of the same, don't you think Eddie?

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah. One of the things I really love about the show is its unpredictability and being able to open up the script every week and go wow, this is what we're doing, this is where we're going, I mean it's that kind of spontaneity that I think really for me keeps me energized in regards to what can be a pretty tedious, grueling 15 hours a day, five days a week, you know 2,000 miles away from my family type schedule. So the writers have created this world and it's really exciting to be able to go there from week to week when we're shooting.

Question:
If you had to give a one sentence statement about the episode coming up on December the 7th to get everyone to watch the show what would you both say?

Saul Rubinek:
It's, as magical as Warehouse 13 stories are, this one has extra spice.

Eddie McClintock:
Mine would be watch this week's stand alone Christmas episode of Warehouse 13.

Question:
Considering that you shot this in summer in Toronto, how hard did you find it trying to get into the holiday spirit that early in the year?

Saul Rubinek:
You know there's an old joke about doing winter in summer. The writers on MASH used to get, years ago used to like getting comments from actors and they used to get all kinds of notes. But then sometimes, this is a story Alan Alda told me, that sometimes you know one actor would say well he's getting changes, maybe I should get changes and sometimes when they got too many changes the writers would write a winter episode shot in 102 degree Calabasas desert where they'd be around a barrel filled with fire wearing parkas, you know.

So they'd be shooting this in 102-degree weather and that was the way they would get back at the actors. It was tough, we were hot, it was August and it was hot turn into winter and covered in whatever they called, whatever that snow was, I think that's probably why they set part of the episode in Los Angeles so that they could at least get outside and do summer looking Christmas but.

Eddie McClintock:
Yeah the snowball that Myka throws at Pete it hits me in the back of the head and then it kind of fell down into my shirt and it was this gooey, the glyceriney like conglomeration of like goo. It was like a ball of goo.

Saul Rubinek:
Excellent. A snotball.

Eddie McClintock:
A snowy snotball if you will, but I remember Jack Kenny, the exec producer when we were, because he also directed that episode as Saul had said earlier and he was like you guys to production make sure that these stages are air conditioned and he forced production to go and rent like two or three extra mammoth AC's so that we weren't just burning up in there. I mean not just for the fact that they wanted the production to look decent but also to keep us comfortable.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. The good fortune of having a show runner that used to be an actor so he can feel for us sometimes.

Eddie McClintock:
We're not just meat puppets to him, although he may not admit that in public.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah I think one of the favorite things that Jack used to say was that you know, Alfred Hitchcock is misquoted, he never said that actors were cattle. He said they should be treated as cattle.

Question:
Saul the highlight for me for the episode were the scenes with Judd Hirsch and you guys just nailed it.

Saul Rubinek:
He's too young to be my dad. He's too young by at least ten years. But they aged him up a little bit you know and he walked a little bit more slowly because he's probably in better shape than I am and so I noticed actually watching the episode that he, it's very subtle what he does with his movements, how he gets up and off a couch, how he sits down. He aged himself in very subtle ways. When you're working with great people it's effortless, you show up, you're in the scene, before you know it's over. It's very simple.

And I've noticed that my friends who are in different professions that are similar where skills are used in front of an audience like especially athletes, that when athletes are working together collaboratively, when a team is working, when you watch a great double play, it just looks easy doesn't it?

It looks easy and when it looks easy it's because it is. The years of experience have allowed it to be that way or people like each other and they've collaborated well. Of course in acting sometimes you're watching a movie and you find out later oh my god these people hated each other but those love scenes were so hot, you know. And there's the magic of editing and the magic of movies that I guess wouldn't happen in the same way in a double play situation.

But all I can say is that it was a joy, it was really a joy, it was very simple. I felt like I'd worked with him for years. It's kind of a similar thing happened to Allison and I the very first time we worked together, I felt like we'd worked together for years, even though there's, you know, 30, 40 years separating us in age.

Question:
What classic cartoon character would you like to come on the show and how do you think that'd play out?

Saul Rubinek:
Wow what classic cartoon character would work well on Warehouse 13? What an interesting question. You know, I always try to think of what would be the least likely not the most likely cartoon character, so rather than any of the superhero characters or any of those characters would seem to fit into our universe, what occurs to me immediately is those Tubby and Nancy comics and you know or Peanuts characters.

Eddie McClintock:
Tubby and Nancy?

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah don't you, that's before your time. There's, well Peanuts characters would be awesome on our show because it's so un-Warehouse, it says nothing to do with our universe whatsoever.

Eddie McClintock:
How about Archie and Jugghead.

Saul Rubinek:
Yeah. To see, well actually Jugghead is probably, that hat is probably an artifact you know.

Eddie McClintock:
I've just got Wile E. Coyote pitched to me on here on Twitter from Tvismypacifier, so that would be a good one.

Saul Rubinek:
Daffy Duck, because he'd probably take over from Artie and start running the warehouse and that's what he would do immediately, we'd have to get Elmer Fudd in there to shoot him and there would be a big mess, there'd be animal rights people, it'd be terrible.

Question:
If either of you two, you know have super powers or could have some sort of super power what would it be and how do you think you'd use it?

Saul Rubinek:
The idea of having super powers it's like, the expression a busman's holiday, it's like a bus driver who goes on vacation but it's ending up on a bus going on vacation. It's like bringing coals to New Castle. Having super powers is kind of like the daily life of Artie. He's got these artifacts that when you use them actually do approximate having super powers and all he knows about super powers is that all they do is they have to be cataloged, they have to be neutralized, they can really destroy people's lives. In fact they can be dangerous to the planet and so he doesn't fantasize about that, doesn't fantasize about having super powers.

What he fantasizes about is not having to deal with any of these things, have a life of normalcy where cause and effect have logical and natural order. You know what I'm saying? For anything to do with super powers it's not in his, his everyday life is doing that. If he could really have them, if he could create anything that would have a super power it would be that these things didn't exist, that there were not such thing as artifacts that could be imbued with these powers that were deadly and insane, and that there was no need for a world where Warehouse 13, where all these 13 warehouses had to exist in order to protect humanity from itself and from the things that they've done and so that's my answer.

Eddie McClintock:
If I had super powers it would be the ability to get my sons to go to bed before 11:00 at night every night.

Question:
Do you guys prefer working on a film where you're creating a character for a couple months or when you're doing a show like where you guys said earlier basically playing yourself?

Saul Rubinek:
That's a really good question. After all these years I can tell you it depends on so many things and on what the people are like and whether you've got a great script. It really can be a nightmare doing a television series where you're locked into something with people that you have trouble with. And I'd have friends who've been on series where you know the show runners and the writing staff and it's all been, there've been tremendous insecurity from the network and so things change constantly, everybody's nervous about how much money they're spending, trying to get an audience.

I've never been in a show that's been the number one show of a network and I've never been on a show ever that's had this kind of support from a network and a studio and had such a happy experience. So there's nothing really in all the 40 years that I've been working that can compare to doing this show. I can say that without any qualms, it's really a joy from beginning to end.

Of course we all like doing different things. We like variety and we are getting a lot of variety on this show. The character isn't stuck in one area. So it really depends, I've done radio and theater, I'm trying to do more theater now because it's a completely different joy that happens as an actor, as you know. But yeah, the show is offering all of us a lot of opportunity for versatility.

Eddie McClintock:
Well I mean the closest thing I've ever come to doing a film was I played Lauren Deen's hands in Lawrence Kasdan's Mumford.

Question:
What's your advice to actors?

Saul Rubinek:
Here's one piece of advice, don't listen to anybody giving you advice. There'd be one thing to not do. You know if you can be advised away from doing acting you probably don't belong there, you know. It's a terribly difficult thing to choose, it's kind of got to choose you.

Eddie McClintock:
I can say that I can just speak from my experience, and I've had a lot of young people from back in Ohio where I'm from who have asked me what they should do. And I mean I don't know what they should do but I can tell them what I did. And that was I got into, I started taking class here or in L.A. because you know it's, the business itself is so cold. I mean not to be too trite but it's a cold, cold business and when you're in class for me, it becomes a bit of an extended family because you're probably from, you're probably not from L.A. when you get there.

So you learn, you develop a support system in class and it's a great way to meet people and do showcases and I met my manager through my acting class and a lot of people that I know that are still working I met through class. So that was probably the most important thing for me is I got in class with a good, reputable acting coach and I studied and studied and studied and worked really hard to feel that I had, that I was qualified to actually walk into a room and call myself an actor so.

Question:
Can you both talk about your movies that are coming up?

Eddie McClintock:
Sure. I guess I'll start. I'm doing a TV, they call it a creature feature here on Syfy and it's called The Legend of the Boogeyman and it's really, it's really a lot of fun, Syfy has been really, really good to me and they want me to kind of bring my comedy to what otherwise would be a kind of a horror film kind of creature feature.

And again I think it's kind of like my all time favorite, one of my all time favorite movies is Evil Dead 2 and the reason being is Bruce Campbell was so brilliant in his ability to inject comedy into what was just a very well done Sam Raimi horror film and the only reason I reference that is because if we can do anything that's even close to that, that would be my dream. So young Emma Sams is in the movie with me, you remember Emma Sams from Dynasty and she was also on General Hospital back when Luke and Laura were getting married and she is amazing and I'm in Bulgaria for three weeks and I actually tweeted a picture today from the set.

The film is not about moonbeams and daffodils so it's really kind of a clever story about who the boogeyman actually may be and I play a local cop who stumbles upon this terrible, terrible creature and hopefully I can help save the day.

Saul Rubinek:
Along with, well Barney's Version is coming out in January. I did another film that I'm hoping is going to get a U.S. release and for anybody who wants to find it it's called Kill Me Please and you can look it up by googling Kill Me Please Belgium movie and take a look at it because I had to go to Belgium last January and did a film where I improvised in French.

It's a really a very small, independent film, however it won a number of prizes including best film at the Rome Film Festival this year. And it's a really interesting movie about clinics that actually exist in Switzerland where people go to commit suicide, but even though that sounds really somber and bleak it's a very funny black comedy, very funny movie.

So I'm hoping that, I know it's released now in Europe and who knows, it might even be in Bulgaria there Eddie. But it might, but I'm hoping because it's winning prizes and great reviews that it'll come to North America soon. People want to look it up it's called Kill Me Please. They should look that up, it's really funny.

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