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Whitney Interviewby Pattye Grippo    

Whitney

This is an interview with Whitney Cummings and Chris D'Elia on August 31, 2011 about the show Whitney.

Question:
With all the new shows that are coming on this fall, what is it about Whitney that's going to make people want to watch it?

Chris D'Elia:
The answer is me.

Whitney Cummings:
Chris D'Elia, right. Chris, that's why people would want to watch it. We're going to change the show to Chris next season. We're going to alternate every episode. I don't know. I think that when we sit down and work on the show and Chris and I are working on stuff I don't think we really think about that really.

I think that we're both standup comedians, I have spent a really long time working on the material that we're talking about on the show and have toured hundreds of cities working on this material and now we're sort of putting it into a narrative form. So the best thing about being a comedian and then having a sitcom is that you know the stuff that you're talking about works or is funny or has resonated with people because I've toured and seen people laugh at it. So I just have that evidence to go on but that's really all I have.

Chris D'Elia:
It is also two stand-ups on the multi-camera thing. That's fun. I don't think people have seen that before.

Whitney Cummings:
No for sure, and I think it's time. I think multi-camera is kind of making a comeback. I think there is something like really fresh and energized and kind of cool about it and I think it's definitely very different especially for what NBC does. It's kind of a different sort of vibe. So and I am really proud of it. And Chris is as funny as they come and us together, like it's funny because whenever we're working on the episodes I'm like I would totally watch this which is but that's just me.

Chris D'Elia:
It's also we have known each other for a while and a lot of that like I don't know, we have a shorthand and it's fun. You know, hopefully there's a chemistry between us. And I don't know.

Whitney Cummings:
It's funny because it's just like you're watching and like all the cast like for some weird reason there's this alchemy where we're all like actually friends so the tapings are just like kind of just like a party. And when you watch the episodes you really kind of like feel it. It just looks like a bunch of friends kind of goofing off, not a bunch of like actors saying lines.

Chris D'Elia:
Yes.

Whitney Cummings:
So we're really proud of just kind of that sort of intangible dynamic and quality that we have with the show that it isn't just the writing is great, yes, the acting is great, the sets are beautiful, the live audience is electric and all that. But there's this kind of like intangible quality I think about the show that I'm really proud of. Like we said all the actors like we truly are like friends and think each other are funny and so it's just kind of that's kind of a cool element.

Question:
What were your most memorable moment from the shows that you've taped so far?

Chris D'Elia:
I think it was when you couldn't open the door in the pilot in that section. That was hilarious.

Whitney Cummings:
I think our outtakes are almost as good as things that actually make it into the show.

Chris D'Elia:
Let me just say I've known Whitney for five years and I've never seen her dressed up in any kind of sexy nurse outfit and it was funny to watch her trying to and seduce me as the character. And there was a moment where she was very sexily trying to open up the door to come in the room and she couldn't open up the door.

Whitney Cummings:
Because it was like it was broken or something.

Chris D'Elia:
And it was the least sexy thing I've ever seen in my life.

Whitney Cummings:
Well it was like Mr. Miller, guys the door, the door is broken. It was just so like goofy. I think I'm not a very suave person. But, it's like it never ends. It's just like doing the show is such a like blast. I feel like maybe one of my new favorite moments happened last night which was I had this dress on and it had a zipper all the way in the back. It literally has a zipper from the top to the bottom like you can just zip it all the way off. And I asked Chris to unzip it for me a little bit and he unzipped the entire thing and saw my entire butt.

Chris D'Elia:
I didn't know, I didn't know what you wanted.

Whitney Cummings:
You could just unzip it a little bit, I got the rest. But no it's funny because Chris and I are often in very sexual situations and I'm not going to lie, I have not managed to give him an erection yet. But maybe this season. Maybe in season two, I'm working on it.

Question:
Whitney, if you were to be put into some sort of confrontation or contest with Joan Rivers, Lisa Lampanelli, Kathy Griffin, who do you think would emerge the victor and why?

Whitney Cummings:
I would definitely lose even if it wasn't Lisa Lampanelli and Joan Rivers and those amazing women but yes, I would actually definitely lose. We actually just in this last episode had a scene where I had to use a sword and it was very humbling. But I would imagine Joan Rivers, Lisa Lampanelli, and Kathy Griffin in whatever competition we were in, they would probably win.

Question:
Based on your background experience as a producer and a writer, how different is this project from your previous work and how involved are you with it?

Whitney Cummings:
It's very different, it's like nothing else I have ever done. And I think the biggest difference obviously is that of all the things that I've written, movies and TV, I'm starring in it, you know. So writing for myself is great because I get to it's much easier than having to write for other people. And I also get to write for all these amazing actors and have Chris D'Elia who is on the phone be in it a long time friend of mine who I admire and know really well and understand. To be able to write for him instead of like for some just random actor is really fun and really great.

It's a lot of work but the good news is that and what is different is that I have a team of ten writers and an amazing show runner and amazing producers that are helping me, you know. So that I think is the biggest difference and a lot of money that they're spending on the show. So I actually get to come up with an idea and execute it like and I get to say and then we're in this beautiful rose garden and there's a swan and then we go to set and sure enough there is a swan. I think that's sort of the biggest difference is the scale that I'm doing it on and that the things that I envision actually kind of get to come true which is totally surreal and amazing.

Question:
Chris you must be having a horrible time working with Whitney. Why did you sign on to the show?

Chris D'Elia:
I think she wrote it for me in mind and I've been friends with Whitney for like five years. We came up doing standup together. nothing makes me happier than working with friends so, that's just a no-brainer to me. to me it's much more fun just to work with somebody that you kind of have a shorthand with and you can kind of goof around with. otherwise you're just actors, two actors getting to know each other and that's kind of a thing that takes some time. And I don't know, I just, I wanted to do it.

Whitney Cummings:
And I mean really like doing shows like this about relationships or couples that have been together, a married couple or anything, it can be really tricky because it's like you have to pull off that you've been in a relationship for three years and you've not knowing someone at all is just like I think that a lot of times that could feel false, you know. We're really lucky that Chris and I have had a preexisting relationship so that when we started shooting the show you could kind of feel our history, you know. I think that's something that is really hard to do with just throwing two actors in a room together who have never met.

Question:
Whitney, we were wondering how similar the on-screen Whitney is going to be to the off-screen Whitney.

Whitney Cummings:
That is something in the writers room we talk about a lot. And there really is no difference because it's like it doesn't make any sense for me to do a TV show where I'm not playing myself because it's like then I'm just an actor. And I'm a comedian and I've worked really hard to sort of develop sort of my ideas and my point of view and my I guess voice as a lot of people call it. And I have worked really hard to figure out what that is on the road and doing standup.

So to depart from that in any way after knowing sort of what works and what I believe to all of the sudden get a show and then be someone else is - I think doesn't make a lot of sense, you know. And also I'm lazy and have a really hard time remembering lines so if it's something that I would actually say that makes the work a lot easier.

And I think the key is, my goal is to be really honest and to be the same person in the show as I am outside of the show. And so we have to kind of make sure standards lets us put the show on the air so sometimes we have to make little adjustments. But I think it's a really big thing that I do. It's like would I really say that, would I really do that, would I really think that, you know. So I try to keep the on-air Whitney as close to the off-air Whitney as possible although the on-air Whitney has much better lighting and makeup and hair and clothes.

Chris D'Elia:
That was the one thing when I read the pilot that I was impressed with was how much it is her, because I've known her for like about five years now and just reading it and how she came off the page and how much it was her, that was one of the things that got me excited about doing the project. There's not really too much of a difference. that was the cool thing about it.

Whitney Cummings:
I wrote every character on the show based on somebody I know and I don't know if that is just a lack of creativity or lack of talent or if it's just the easy way out. But Chris I wrote for with Chris in mind so it was so much easier for me to write his role obviously just imagining what he would do or think or say. And all the other characters on the show I wrote based on friends of mine, you know. So for me it's like I don't want to sit around and like imagine some character. I sort of try to start from real and go from there.

But it's interesting in the writers room because we spend a lot of time holding a mirror up to who I actually am. A lot of times I'll be like yes and then I do this. And that's not really how you are like I sometimes have a skewed perception of who I am so the writers constantly remind me sort of about myself. So I'm doing a lot of learning about myself in a very short intense period of time.

Question:
Did you turn to any of comedians that you know for advice and did they give you any helpful hints?

Whitney Cummings:
I have had the like insane, I think something that's so amazing about being a comedian is that because we all work in clubs and comedians at every level work in clubs, you know. And something that's so amazing is that you can kind of be shoulder to shoulder with your heroes just on any given night, you know. Chris knows I remember when I was an open miker at The Comedy Store like I'd be standing in the hallway waiting to go on and Chris Rock would come by and I'd be like and I brought up Chris Rock like when I had been doing standup for like two years. Like it's just kind of like amazing community where you get to kind of meet your heroes like at every stage and every level.

And there's not like a caste system of the big ones only hang out with the big ones and the small ones only hang out with the small ones. So I have luckily been able to meet a lot of my heroes and to have a lot of - get a lot of advice from people that have had this experience. And it's been great. And another thing is that we have a lot of writers who are very experienced in working on shows like this. So we have this guy who worked on Roseanne for a long time. So for him to be in there advice from him and heads up from him is I think just as valuable as well as someone who has been through it. But I've been really, really lucky to have a lot of great advice and mentors.

Question:
Now that you've both spent time with the characters, how hard do you think that it is for people to have a relationship on their own terms free from expectation?

Chris D'Elia:
I think that's really tough because we all know people that want to give us information what they think. it's just hard. We live in like a place where there are people that have an agenda and there's right and wrong and it's hard to do that. I just know from personal experience. Everyone is always asking when you're in a relationship when you're getting married and then when you get married when are you having kids and it's just like that's too hard to deal with.

Whitney Cummings:
Yes, it's funny and that's like it's a really interesting question you ask because I think that when I my standup, what I talk about in my standup I think is a lot about that. It's like it doesn't seem like there's a lot of purity in relationships. It seems like there's just and I think a lot of it has to do with just the culture we live in of like we grow up watching these romantic movies and it's like you fall in love and you get married and happily ever after and you get so many conflicting messages I think these days.

Especially like our generation is a generation that grew up with a lot of divorce so you grow up like even if your parents aren't divorced you have friend's parents or you have the kids down the street's parents are divorced or your uncle is divorced. I mean, like we grew up seeing relationships kind of fail and be optional. And knowing that half of all marriages end, this is a statistic that we all know and I have a stuttering problem. And then we're also sort of the media tells us happily ever after and you two should get married and this and this.

So it's like I think there's just like a lot of conflicting messages and sort of conflicting expectations and pressures that we're feeling while just trying to just have a good thing and live day by day and enjoy a relationship. But there's just all these kind of rules and pressures and stresses and it's really tricky. And that's kind of what this show is about. It's about sort of trying to just have a good relationship despite your damage, despite social pressures, despite expectations and rules and all that.

It's about customizing your relationship. That's kind of sort of what Chris and I's relationship in the show is we're doing our version of love, not society's version of it, you know. And our thing is I want us to stay together so bad that I don't want us to get married because that seems to be when everything falls apart, at least in my experience as the character.

Question:
As a guy do you think it's easier for Alex to go unmarried than it is for Whitney or do you think that they're on the same page completely?

Chris D'Elia:
I think that if it were up to Alex that getting married wouldn't be that bad of an idea. I think it's more Whitney's character that's like well we're not doing this and Alex is kind of okay with it just because he knows Whitney and the relationship has been working out and he's just kind of happy with how it's going. And if that's what works for them then that's fine. But, I mean I think that both of them are just kind of happy the way it is now.

Whitney Cummings:
And something interesting about Alex's character is that he has had no divorce in his family. His parents have been together for 30 years so he has never sort of lived through what divorce can do to you, you know. So he's got sort of a more positive, comfortable association with marriage as well. But that's really interesting.

Chris D'Elia:
I mean, I don't know, I feel like it's kind of how I feel about it. I mean if you love somebody and it's working out and the girl wants to get married and you love the girl, it's the same thing to me, you know. It's like you're going to be together. I mean according to love it's the same thing. you're going to be together, you're going to live together, and it's going to be you and you and that's how it is. And whether you're married or not, that doesn't change anything. I know people say oh it's much different when you get married but it's not really. I have been married so it's like - it kind of is the same thing. I have lived with a girl and I have also lived with a wife and if you are in love you're in love.

Question:
Whitney, to what extent have your comedy routines shaped the direction and the content of the show so far and do any of your cast mates deliver your jokes better than you do?

Whitney Cummings:
The answer is yes on both counts. The show is 100% my standup and 100% what I've sort of been developing and then also a big part Chris who is on the phone who I wrote the show with in mind. When we sit down to write I sort of think about okay what in my standup has worked, what in my standup am I still really passionate about and want to talk about that I think is provocative and interesting and worth exploring and has a lot of conflict and still makes me laugh.

And then sort of having Chris D'Elia as my boyfriend on the show, what's a great intersection between that and him and what his point of view would be. And that's sort of how we come up with stories. And as far as other people on the show having my standup, that's a huge part of it. And I think that Roxanne who plays the divorced single woman on the show and Dan O'Brien who plays Mark who's kind of the eternal cerebral bachelor on the show tend to have a lot of my standup point of view. And yes they are much funnier at it than I am.

Question:
Whitney, for the development of TV show you're doing 2 Broke Girls as well. What are the big challenges to working with so many people on a television show in the creative process versus your standup, perhaps with both of your stand-ups, where obviously you are the primary creative people involved?

Whitney Cummings:
The good news is like you have like a team of like ten amazing writers and I have an amazing show runner who help you with all this, people who are super experienced and super, we have the best writers I think there are in television working on this. But it is a very different creative process because as a comedian Chris knows about this, it's like you write it, you perform it, you edit it, you perform it again, you hone it yourself, and you have a long time to develop something.

Like before I did my hour special I got to perform it 100 times over a year and keep sharpening it and keep sharpening it and you just have proof that it's good. You just know that it's a 100% bulletproof joke, it got a laugh 100 times, it's going to get a laugh on the 101st time whereas in a sitcom it's like you have three days basically to make something before you put it on TV. You write the script, you table read it, you do a producer run through, you do a network run through, and then you shoot it so it's like three days. And that's a different part of the creative process that I'm not used to. It just moves so fast.

But thankfully it's not just me, I have like ten amazing writers helping me. But that's something that I'm adjusting to a lot. Thankfully the part of the creative process that matters the most which is the performing of it is in front of a live studio audience like standup. So once we're actually performing it, it all sort of starts to feel really comfortable and sort of a safe area for me.

Question:
I know you were talking about playing such a strong female role and I wanted to ask you why was that so important for you to show a female character that we usually don't kind of see in sitcoms, like more of a realistic look at women in relationships?

Whitney Cummings:
Yes, that's the thing that's funny because I think a lot of people and I've probably said it too, like in terms of like a strong female character. It's kind of a weird definition for me because I think I'm definitely strong in terms of like I'm opinionated and I am critical about traditions that I find oppressive or confusing or limiting and I have a lot of strong criticisms of things that I think. I tend to have an obsession with injustice and so that comes through.

But at the same time the character and you've seen the pilot is also I'm very flawed. And I think that's kind of what we're exploring in the series is my flaws and vulnerabilities and fears and damage. And I think I tend to come off very strong but I think some of the more interesting parts of the show and the stories where the conflict is sort of the vulnerabilities and the flaws and the insecurities based on the sort of unique childhood that I came from. But it's really cool, you know. I think everybody's sort of question of the year is all these women are leads in comedies now and strong women, strong women everywhere and I think having women writing for women I think really helps that.

Question:
Chris, your character is also more of like a real guy. What's it like to play that character as well as be in a relationship with such a strong woman?

Chris D'Elia:
It's kind of how, Whitney and I aren't boyfriend and girlfriend in real life but it's kind of how our relationship is. I think that it's just how we are. Like, we've done the road together and we've spent a lot of time together and it's just like on camera is pretty much our relationship in real life although minus the fact that we're boyfriend and girlfriend.

Whitney Cummings:
I wrote this with him in mind as everyone seems to know by now. But I think it was really important to me.

Chris D'Elia:
Because Whitney can come off as the guy in the relationship and that's not okay really I think in the sitcom. Because she needs to be her and she needs to be a girl and she needs a guy who is going to be a good balance on okay look, yes that's fine Whitney, you're very opinionated, but I wear the pants.

Whitney Cummings:
It's like Chris and I's relationship is like a lion and I'm like a little Chihuahua just like biting his heel. Like there's no I'm just like this Chihuahua that kind of just circles around him and he's just sort of like I think amused by it. It's something we talk about a lot in the writers room about how Alex is just kind of like amused by my crazy instead of actually threatened or actually hurt.

Or I think that we for lack of a better comparison it's more of a Lucy and Desi vibe because I think a lot of TV show relationships, it's like the woman is the boss and the guy is scared of her. It's like what? That doesn't feel real to me and that feels like hokey sitcom. So it was really important that I think it felt like Chris, my boyfriend on the show was the boss and could absorb me and if he told me to do something I would do it, you know. That to me is much more interesting and has more stake to the conflict.

Question:
And I know it's attractive the show is aimed at women but will it attract a lot more men as well because the male character is so strong?

Chris D'Elia:
I think because of that, that guys can identify with it more, yes. And I think that they, like it's kind of refreshing to see a guy not the guy is always oh what am I going to do to please my wife. And I've seen it before. And that can be funny but this is definitely one of the reasons why it's different and I think guys can identify with it. So yes, hopefully guys will watch it because of that and I think they will. I would. I like it.

Whitney Cummings:
Yes I think I knew that the show was aimed towards women but I think that it doesn't alienate anybody. I think that we have there's a woman in the show who is a divorcee who actually kind of has the same opinions as a man. And then we have another guy on the show who plays one of our friends who's a cop who is like a cerebral bachelor type who doesn't believe in monogamy and thinks that marriage is a hoax and a capitalist conspiracy. It's like actually a lot of the sort of provocative things that we talk about in the show are opinions that I think a lot of guys would relate to.

Question:
Whitney, you actually started on MTV's Punk'd and I was wondering if you guys have been pulling any pranks or punking anyone like on set?

Whitney Cummings:
Why don't we do that more?

Chris D'Elia:
I don't know, that's kind of weird.

Whitney Cummings:
You know why, because everyone on our cast is constantly texting and tweeting. Nobody actually ever like talks to each other anymore. Everyone is just on their phone. But Chris and I goof off and are complete idiots all day. It's funny because the closest thing that I did to a prank, this is how like lame and like nice and boring our cast is, is that it was one of our cast members' birthdays today, Zoe-Lister Jones who plays one of my friends in the show Lily, and I wanted to give her a birthday present so I snuck in her dressing room to like put it in there and she was peeing. So I walked in on her peeing. And that was like the closest thing. So it was just like an accidental trying to be nice and it turned into like really weird awkward prank and now we can never make eye contact again.

Question:
What is some feedback that you've gotten from like married friends or family about the show?

Whitney Cummings:
I try to keep married people out of my life. Not really. I don't have married friends, no I'm kidding. You know, I think that feedback from married people, I don't know. It's just one of those things I always say like who would tell me if it was bad feedback. Maybe people just don't give me the bad feedback. But I try not to read my replies on Twitter too much. But it seems people really seem to like it and relate to it and I don't know, like I just am kind of like saying things that I think and believe and it seems like a lot of people think them but just don't say them, you know.

And I think that when I sort of first started putting this idea together about like why am I scared of marriage, why am I scared of commitment, why am I scared of monogamy, why do I have this fear? And I started sort of doing some research about it and as I started doing it on stage people would start sending me articles and it turns out that like statistically women are waiting longer to get married, couples are living together longer before they get married. The average age of marriage is going up. And I was like okay this isn't just me. This is like kind of a sort of more universal thing where people are kind of I think monogamy and the idea of marriage has sort of taken a little bit of a hit I think over the past sort of ten years with the divorce rate going so high.

And remember that year where like Tiger Woods, David Letterman, like Jesse James, like every guy was cheating on his wife and it was just like what? Like Sandra Bullock got cheated on so it was like what does that mean for the rest of us? You know, there was just kind of this like year where it was Eva Longoria, just people in the public eye that I think it was just sort of taking a communal sort of toll on our faith a little bit.

The show isn't anti-commitment or anti-anything we're committed and I think our point is just sort of we're just as married as any married couple if not more so. And we're not afraid of commitment on the show. I think it's just sort of exploring some of these traditions that seem to cause us a lot of stress and sort of playing around with them.

Question:
Have you learned or discovered anything like about yourselves also mainly like relationship wise or regarding friendships?

Whitney Cummings:
I think that, for me this is like every day is a huge learning process because as a writing a show like this or even being a standup you're sort of forced to figure out what your opinions are about things and you're forced to figure out who the hell you are, you know. And the good news is that Chris and I having been stand-ups for a while, that's something we've sort of been figuring out so hopefully there aren't too many surprises. You know, but yes, I think I'm sort of forced to figure out who I am. And I think if I have learned anything it's sort of that I am not as tough as I think I am.

Chris D'Elia:
That's what I have learned too. Whitney is not as tough as she thinks she is.

Whitney Cummings:
And that I think I'm a lot more sort of sensitive and emotional than I would like to think I am and that I would like to sometimes pretend I am, you know? Because this doing a show like this is the ultimate like being private and public and being vulnerable. And this isn't my standup of like me as a single slut, this is like me in a relationship so it's putting a really like honest look of sort of what happens when it's just you and your guy in the bedroom talking about things that hurt your feelings, you know. Sort of so when we get to that territory I kind of start learning a lot about who I actually am versus who I wish I was.

Question:
Chris do you have anything that you have learned besides Whitney is not as tough as she says she is?

Chris D'Elia:
It has all made my opinions and thoughts kind of reinforced. I feel a couple like Alex and Whitney could work. And I always thought that but now it just kind of feels like this is the relationship I have in my life now is my TV relationship. It's like so I just feel like yes, Alex and Whitney, they could work. And so I feel like that's what I would strive for in my personal life.

Whitney Cummings:
And that's actually weird because like this is pretty sad and kind of maybe dark but like I think that through this TV show I'm kind of starting to believe that relationships can work which might be insane and I'm going to end up institutionalized soon. But like I am kind of like through this sort of TV relationship with Chris I'm kind of like starting to have faith in commitment and monogamy and in relationships.

Chris D'Elia:
I will say I haven't cheated on her yet in the show.

Whitney Cummings:
Because for it to happen I'd have to write it. I think what I'm learning is that I have to date someone who I have to give someone a script every morning. My boyfriend has to be performing what I tell him to do. Maybe that's bad. But I don't know, it's kind of weird because I sort of feel like I'm at a time where I feel like my real life is a TV show and my TV life is real. Like it's kind of a surreal time where it seems like what's happening in my real life is more outrageous than what's actually happening in my TV life. But I hope other people have the same experience because I think that every episode is sort of the idea that I get closer and closer to embracing the idea of forever and trusting the idea of monogamy and marriage. And I think it's actually like weirdly really happening.

Question:
With your point of view do you find yourself pushing the envelope like with your writing really trying to get your point of view out there? Have you got any like network resistance or what's the deal with that?

Whitney Cummings:
I am really, really lucky to be at NBC under Bob Greenblatt because this new head of NBC is so supportive. it's not like we're sitting around trying to get dick jokes through, you know. I mean, we don't sit around and go how can we be edgy, you know. We're really just trying to tell an honest sort of story about this relationship and between these two people and their struggles and their sex life and that sort of thing. But he is super supportive about it's about good TV, not safe TV. That's their whole thing so we've had no struggles with that. But at the same time it's not like I'm sitting around trying to be as filthy as possible, you know.

his show is very different from my standup and different from the roasts in that it's not me trying to insult people or me talking about being single and all the weird sexual things I encountered when I was single. It's about me in a relationship which is very sort of different. So it's kind of a different side to me anyway. It has been so great and I think that there is something provocative and inherently edgy about honesty which is kind of where we always try to bring our stories from, what really happens, what do people really think and what do people really fear and what are people's real flaws.

And sort of there's always something like a little bit provocative and taboo about that so but that's kind of what we strive for. And I'm really sort of proud of it. I was worried, I have no business being on network TV, zero. Like I never thought I would do network television, you know. So to be on it and completely unrestrained and supported is surreal.

Question:
What about two at the same time?

Whitney Cummings:
Yes I'm so tired. I am really tired. But the good news about CBS is that Michael Patrick King is running that show and I don't think you can find someone better qualified to run a TV show about two women in New York than Michael, you know. So that I get to work on the weekends and nights and I get to talk to Michael all the time about it and help out when I can. And I'm really, really proud of what that has become as well.

Question:
Yes the women oriented shows are great. that's what we need. And we do want the envelope pushed because we want to hear that stuff.

Whitney Cummings:
Beyond the envelope is where I start laughing, that's what I think is funny, you know. I'm not sitting around going what - is America going to think it's funny. I think it's a really dangerous area when you start worrying about what other people like. And Chris can sort of knows this too of like being a standup, like what has made people laugh in the past that I have said is what I'm going to keep talking about.

Like it makes no sense for me to have worked so hard to develop this sort of material that I know is funny and I know is good which I think a lot of people can agree is a little bit edgy but then get on TV and start from scratch and do something totally different. Like I'm just doing what I have always thought is funny, what I have sort of has been proven to me is funny and reliably funny, and going to keep sort of doing it and saying it. But I think that we kind of sit around in the writers room and on stage and it's sort of what do we think is funny. If other people it's funny, great. You know, that's - hopefully that will happen.

But I think when you start worrying about what will other people like, are we going to offend people with this joke, is this going to be too far. I think that you get into dangerous territory and start making bad, unspecific, safe, boring TV. And especially TV now is competing with the Internet. Like we're competing with videos of like pandas eating like babies. That's horrible but like I just think that TV ought to kind of step it up a little bit.

Question:
Are you staying to the script or do you find yourself improvising a lot?

Chris D'Elia:
Sitcom is different, it's more of a science. We stick to the script a lot but on tape night and stuff like that and on the run throughs we come up with sometimes some other stuff and the writers are there always pitching other jokes and so it keeps it fresh.

Whitney Cummings:
Yes I think like and, Chris is funny as they come and so it's like and we happen to have a lot of actors who are just really amazing so it's sometimes we're a little more flexible. But the like he said, the science of sitcom is that you try something out, if it doesn't work you improve it, you improve it, you add jokes, you change so it's kind of always evolving.

Question:
What are you working on for ABC and Fox?

Whitney Cummings:
I've got my pitches. Me as a scientist and Chris is playing my boyfriend again on another show. Yes I think I'm going to take a break from TV shows, selling TV shows for a little while.

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